Nervous Laughter Podcast

Episode 86: Afraid of Going to Hell

Episode Summary

Spiders, hell houses, and trauma - oh my! Join the ladies for another spooky episode where we explore necrobotics and hell houses. Have a happy & safe spooky season fat heads!

Episode Notes

Spiders, hell houses, and trauma - oh my! Join the ladies for another spooky episode where we explore necrobotics and hell houses. Have a happy & safe spooky season fat heads!

References:
Parents Horrified After Teacher Shows Inappropriate Movie at Local School - CBS News Miami

Necrobotics: Biotic Materials as Ready-to-Use Actuators by Department of Mechanical Engineering, Rice University, Houston TX from the National Library of Medicine

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Music & Sounds:
Spooky Ambience by Mrrobodevin

SCRATCH_G_004 by G_M_D_THREE

Reel-to-Reel Tape on Fast Forward by Ev-Dawg

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Episode Transcription

Speaker 1 0:00
Okay, so Alyssa, you know how we don't like answering the door?

Unknown Speaker 0:04
Yeah, it scares us. Yes.

Speaker 1 0:06
Yeah. So there was a couple of Well, what I thought was salespeople, like came to the door, and Brandon was talking to him for a while. It turned out that they were with us like volunteer, like, Forget good, cause it wasn't solicited.

Unknown Speaker 0:22
But so Brandon's a Mormon now. Yeah,

Speaker 1 0:25
he's Mormon. And no, but I, you know, the little hallway, like over here. I just sat in the hallway the whole time. It was like, 20 minutes

Unknown Speaker 0:59
I felt stuck. I didn't know what to do. I was like, I

Speaker 2 1:01
can't get up and walk. To my home. I'm like that, too.

Speaker 1 1:06
I live here. But don't look it I don't want to be seen. I was like, I can't. I don't know why I was I can't get up and walk because then they're gonna be like, Oh, hi, you back there. Or something. So I was like, maybe I can like curl. Let's see what they're talking about. What's the Lord has in store for us today? Yeah, so I just and then it was funny because Brandon a closed the door in the walk over by the stairs where you can see in that hall, and he was like, Were you there the whole time? I was like, Yes. I was like, I will. I couldn't like even because the window and there was a room and the window was open. So I couldn't even like really peak out because they would see me. I don't know why just get into like that stealth mode of

Speaker 2 1:54
I do to like, when when GE has had people over like in the back and I'm in the house. And I'm like, I don't want to walk by the window. And then they see me and be like, Yeah, I want to say hi or whatever.

Speaker 1 2:07
And then if you wait for like, too long, it's just like, well, it's lazy. Now it's too weird.

Speaker 2 2:13
Or like, say maybe they've been talking for a while and they're about to leave but then if you walk out you prolong them leaving so yeah, well, timing is. No, we're afraid of people. Well.

Unknown Speaker 2:28
This was nervous laughter Podcast.

Speaker 2 2:30
I'm Jamie. I'm Alyssa. And please come to our doors don't come to our doors unless you're expecting it. Even then, please knock softly

Unknown Speaker 2:40
Yes. Oh my god.

Speaker 2 2:42
Or we both have like cameras so yeah, probably just see

Speaker 1 2:47
you next when you get here. Don't walk outside and try that thank you for being terrier. Well, speaking of just, I guess, children being afraid we are basically afraid children. Uh huh. Um, there was a teacher in Miami who accidentally showed the movie Winnie the Pooh blood honey. Fourth graders. Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 2 3:27
I didn't read the article. This. I don't know anything about it. Well, it seems like there's still things

Speaker 1 3:31
coming out about it. Oh, yeah. But from what I read was a woman in Miami claims that her twin fourth graders had been distraught because their teacher showed their class the movie Winnie the Pooh blood honey, for those who are not familiar with the movie after the Winnie the Pooh trademark expired. Made. Yeah,

Speaker 2 3:55
I didn't know that. Oh, yeah, we should do something for the podcast with Winnie the Pooh then. Oh, yeah,

Speaker 1 4:00
we'll do some AI generated like stories. Oh, yeah. Yeah, and so that expired and some folks decided just to you know, make a horror movie with it. The synopsis I pulled from IMDb is after Christopher Robin abandons them for college poor take like embark on a bloody rampage as they search for a new source of food.

Unknown Speaker 4:26
Oh shit. Okay, I'm into it sounds pretty good.

Speaker 1 4:28
Yeah, well, I read some reviews that said they're really bad which I was expecting it to be bad but they said it's not even a good bad it's just a bad bad but I'm still interested in checking it out. The versions of pm Piglet and this kind of look like post apocalyptic Chucky Cheese Twisted Metal kinda is costing me things. And so apparently the teacher didn't stop the movie until 20 to 30 minutes ends Yeah,

Unknown Speaker 5:00
did they just? I don't know. I

Speaker 1 5:03
mean, I'm trying to think of every time my teachers put a movie on and they definitely zoned out. The mom that this new station recorded. Let's see, I use CBS News Miami. She said, quote, he didn't stop the movie even though the kids were saying, hey, stop the movie. We don't want this. in quotes. The school basically said we're aware of it. We've talked to the teacher and we're working with our mental health counselor, and affected students. The mother said she felt abandoned by the school, which is why she went to CBS News, Miami, so I'm wondering how much the school is really doing.

Unknown Speaker 5:44
Oh, damn.

Speaker 1 5:46
I feel like school counselors are really hit and miss if they're helpful or not. So

Unknown Speaker 5:54
we'll see.

Speaker 1 5:57
I also just have one other little thing. Before I pass pass pass the mic to Aliss the wiki wiki wiki. So I feel like I need to put a little trigger warning. Oh, especially for you Alyssa because

Unknown Speaker 6:20
spider. Yes.

Speaker 1 6:23
But I will. I will let you know the spiders not alive. If that is helpful. I

Unknown Speaker 6:27
mean, I guess like kinda

Speaker 1 6:30
Do I have your permission to continue? Poor? Okay.

Speaker 2 6:34
I'll try to make it through my hands. Like what the fuck? Okay. I'm sorry. No,

Speaker 1 6:42
I knew this might cause you some stress. But I at the spiders dead and stuff. It might be a little different than your good.

Unknown Speaker 6:49
Hope it's in hell.

Speaker 1 6:53
I think hopefully this won't be too bad. But I think it's still kind of good. Halloweeny So have you ever heard of neck robotics? No. So basically, the shortest way I can put it is they use a dead spider to pick things up and drop it. Like they have a dead spider. And then they put little puffs of air in its body. I'll read a little bit more about it. So these are like small spiders. They're, they're kind of medium size, I guess. Um, so it's interesting because I write a paper about it. I didn't read the full paper but they did have a little graph where it looked like they did some like linear algebra that was like, size of spider and like how much it can hold and there was like the sweet spot.

Speaker 2 7:41
I'm more of like, like a hand or half a hand size spiders. What scares me like, if a spider was like, two mouthwash cups or more, I'm fucking out.

Speaker 1 7:55
Okay. The ones that they're using. I'll show you some videos of it but I think it's like maybe like a mouthwash cup and a half or a mouthwash just one mouthwash cup.

Unknown Speaker 8:05
Sounds a little borderline but a lot.

Speaker 1 8:09
So I feel like the article I read or not article I'm sorry, scientific paper. I read from the National Library of Medicine. There is a paper on the neck probiotics are neck robotics. It is quote spider in spider. That's hard to say spider inspired by it are inspired devices and systems have garnered a particularly high level of interest in recent years due to the unique mechanism through which spiders control the motion of their legs by applying hydraulic pressure spider legs do not have antagonists, Nick, antagonistic muscle pairs. Instead, they have only flexor muscles that can track their legs inward. And hemolymph. And it's just as blood pressure. So I guess like blood pressure generated by the persona, the persona is kind of like a part between like where the there's like the spider head and then there's the thorax. And then, like the big butt part. And it's kind of like the Gucci area well, it's not the penis region. It's, I guess, like I'm looking at from a different way but you know, the neck region, the Gooch of the neck, I guess if you will,

Unknown Speaker 9:43
the gooseneck okay, you know,

Speaker 1 9:46
I don't I don't know why I thought that would be a good analogy. But um, anyway. So that will like extend their legs outwards. And so when a spider dies, no pressure or is you know, being pushed out for their legs anymore and so that's why they like curl up. They're like you know, well done how spider. So to create this neck robotic and I might keep saying macrobiotic, so sorry.

Unknown Speaker 10:13
Grow antibiotics.

Speaker 1 10:15
Yeah, it's hard. The raw biotic material aka the spider cadaver. I don't know why I just thought that sounded cute.

Unknown Speaker 10:26
They have like a little white sheet over it

Speaker 1 10:29
has a little tag on this little flip it was obtained by euthanizing a wolf spider.

Speaker 2 10:36
Oh, yeah. Spider murderer. And yeah,

Speaker 1 10:40
and they do that by exposing it to freezing temperatures for a period of five to seven days. Which was really sad.

Speaker 2 10:48
Like it is taking way too long.

Speaker 1 10:54
Yeah, yeah. Kill the spiders faster. I see what you're saying.

Speaker 2 10:58
They were gonna use like a tiny needle and put like their brains electric I thought it was a Jeffrey Dahmer type situation I don't know.

Speaker 1 11:15
Makes a little spider zombies like foot bleach and it's pretty. Um, but yeah, so they freeze these spiders for a few days until they die. I think they use the freezing method to just kind of preserve it as well as like best as they can. So anyway, after it's dead, you insert the needle into the persona of the spider which again necky Gooch area Yeah. Like you took the neck. Add some glue to it, like creates an airtight seal. So your needles all airtight and layer and then you just you know, push the needle air and extends the legs. And then whenever you make it, stop pushing air, contracts them and like picks up whatever whatever is there. To do. Let me kind of explain why this is cool for picking things up. Quote, we also demonstrated the neck robotics gripper ability to lift objects with varying geometries, volumes and masses. And we showed that untethered, unhealed up to you. I know I don't know what this is. So I'm gonna but there's something else that is possible. Our next robotic gripper can camouflage with its surrounding due to the patterns and textures of its body. And furthermore, it naturally biodegrade at the end of its lifetime, reducing the amount of waste generated compared to traditional artificial gripper actuators. So, yeah, it's pretty cool because it's, it doesn't generate more waste. It seems like a lot of times we're leaning towards plastics, like oh, yeah, a paper reference this gripper called new net grippers, which it kind of just looked like a weird like hollow piece of silicone in a weird shape. So it was almost kind of like rigid looking. And then they would pump air into it, and then you know, decrease it so it could grip in its weird little crevices that were cut out. So it looks like a weird breathing piece of material. But it requires like different pieces to be 3d printed different things to cure for a while, and you have to kind of piecemeal it together. So it takes like days and stuff. But this, you know, after the spider dies, it only takes like 10 minutes for the glue to cure. Atlanta, bing bang boom, you have a neck robotic gripper. So, so yeah, it's it's pretty cool.

Speaker 2 14:06
Wait, so just so I understand. They're testing on spiders so that they can make like real life like grippy robotic things for people. Is that right?

Speaker 1 14:19
Well, I think that they want to actually use these as an option for grippers.

Speaker 2 14:25
Why, like you would have a dead spider that pick stuff up?

Speaker 1 14:30
Yeah, like a little needle that pumps air into it. They might make different robotics based off of it, but since this is like degradable and an available resource, I guess what, like, you can but it's also like its legs, you know, it can grip around like a crazy different amount of shapes. Like a whereas this, they have to like otherwise have to build out all these special kind of grippy things. It's also like really gentle like when it's true I want to see little legs close on something and picks it up. It's just like a hug. A little spider hug your hug. But let me show you a video. Only like, I didn't like read any like specific applications, but they have a video that it's like pulling something. It's pulling like a little diode. It's like a little piece that's plugged into a breadboard a little electronic thing and it grabs it and pulls it out. And so So yeah, I don't know. I don't know what all kinds of applications it has. But sounds like if you're messing with like tiny, easy to break things. This is an option

Unknown Speaker 15:53
Oh, oh,

Speaker 1 15:55
yeah. Okay, yeah, so I just got done showing Alyssa the videos. What do you think Alyssa

Unknown Speaker 16:02
feel uncomfortable?

Unknown Speaker 16:05
It is. Yeah, it is weird.

Speaker 2 16:08
That those types of spiders are typically not the ones I'm afraid of. But just like when the legs like open up like that. It's very frightening.

Unknown Speaker 16:18
You know, and I feel like I'm not

Speaker 2 16:23
a good golf girl living a goth girl fantasy because I don't like spiders. I feel like that is the one thing that really detracts from my gosh, girl fantasy. I should have a pet tarantula. But I'm fucking terrified.

Speaker 1 16:38
Well, I feel like since you've lived above a funeral home, I feel like God.

Speaker 2 16:46
Thank you. Yeah. It's pretty black cats. Yes. Yeah, you're right. Spiders.

Speaker 1 16:52
There's this chick I work with that has all kinds of like insects and pets and stuff. Whoa, she has a couple of tarantulas. And she sent a picture one day and um, I guess for some reason she had it in the bathroom and it got loose in the bathroom. Yeah, nope. Um, but, uh, yeah, she was like, my, she was like, my husband clothes me in the bathroom with it and told me and like really? Like, no.

Speaker 2 17:21
Like that thing. We're never coming out.

Speaker 1 17:25
And she sent us a picture because it was like, Um, no, I guess it was I don't know if this is like a defense mode or whatever. But it just like white white like stretches out all its legs and stuff. So it can look bigger. So it's just like on the bathroom wall like that. And I was just like, fuck that. And she was like, I love her so much because he hates we

Unknown Speaker 17:48
doing movements like the robotic spider

Speaker 1 17:55
that'd be a good Halloween costume. But yeah, so that was the neck robotics that I just thought what did you bring interesting. I saw some stuff on Facebook. Like because this was the paper was written October 2022. Okay, so it kind of got shared around on social media a little bit. Because it's just like a Whoa, what the fuck thing. But also talked with Mike about it a little bit, too. So shout out to Mike. You know, what spider do

Speaker 2 18:32
Mike sent me a video, a tarantula video. Oh, no Instagram, and I was like, I'm not gonna open up open up anything from you? Because I'm scared. Dammit, my long time ago. Don't get any ideas, but

Unknown Speaker 18:51
I'll have to vet the Instagram messages.

Speaker 2 18:58
Sent it on my personal one. So you could Oh, okay. Sure. Crew jam you. Oh, my. Well, thank you for sharing that. It was scary, but also very interesting. And it does make sense about using them as a biodegradable thing.

Unknown Speaker 19:20
Yeah. Though,

Speaker 2 19:23
one thing I was thinking when you were showing me the video, the needle was still plastic. So Oh, yeah, that's sure so perfect. Yeah, I guess I can see how that would be. Definitely an improvement because like you said it would take days and like multiple materials. Yeah. And you

Speaker 1 19:40
could get like I can't remember how many uses it said but it was like a ton of uses. So

Speaker 2 19:47
you just pop the needle out and put it in another spider. Yeah. So over the air, so you just like pull back the syringe and then it's good to go.

Speaker 1 19:56
Yeah, well, I think they already have the syringe primed with air and It's like a pretty big one too. Oh, I see. So you just do like a little bit. Yeah, a little bit of time. Okay, however much you need the legs open, you know? And then pull it back, which I assume adds a little more air to the syringe. So yeah, I thought it was pretty cool.

Unknown Speaker 20:19
Scary. Just like shot eggs out.

Unknown Speaker 20:22
Oh my god.

Unknown Speaker 20:24
Yeah,

Speaker 1 20:26
I would freak out. I remember one time. When I was younger, there was this big spider in a in the garage. And me and my dad were looking at like, we're like, that's weird. It looks like it has like all this bumpy stuff on it. And then um, so we're gonna spray it with some poison and then cover it with a bucket and pool because I think I think we kind of realized that it was babies on the back so you know

Unknown Speaker 20:57
not gonna move.

Speaker 1 21:00
But yeah, so I'm spraying it put the bucket on but like holy shit, those little babies just fucking like just like way faster than than I expected. And it made me scared of like, put the bucket on for a second but I had do it.

Speaker 2 21:15
Better give me your fault Well, if you don't have any more on scary spiders, and I have a spooky thing for you.

Unknown Speaker 21:38
I will turn it to you.

Speaker 2 21:39
I'm already sighing because some of this made me legitimately fucking mad. How shall I? Oh,

Speaker 1 21:46
okay. Okay, let me get my let's be lawyers cap on. Is that gonna help at all?

Unknown Speaker 21:52
No, but

Speaker 2 21:53
I think this naturally sorted itself out which I'll get to. Oh, okay, cool. Are you familiar with Hill houses? Oh, it's a religious haunted house. Oh,

Speaker 1 22:07
okay. The only way I'm familiar with it is I'm king of the hill.

Speaker 2 22:12
The king of the hill. Yep. I watched that episode before he came over. And it's one of my favorites. So fucking good.

Speaker 1 22:19
I am excited. Ah, one funny

Speaker 2 22:23
thing real quick from the episode like, they're driving around. And Bobby says something like, oh, yeah, like, the evil spirits or whatever. Like they really try to attack virgins. So we both have to be really careful and Lewin's like, ah, yeah. You good? I'm so in 1991. The Trinity Church in Cedar Hill, Texas, which is in the Dallas Fort Worth area. Okay. First Hill House was born. For my Googling, it looks like one hasn't. Or like it hasn't been open since 2018. Because I was like, we need to fucking go up there. It's not that far. Oh, yeah. Google shows that is temporarily closed. Dammit. It's hard to find a lot of stuff on this house because there's a movie called Hell House LLC. So the I was thinking which sucks.

Speaker 1 23:31
Have you ever seen that movie? Is it good? Yeah, if I remember correctly, I could be confusing it with another movie, but it's like you know they go into this like a haunted house. Haunted House doesn't like the scary house you go through with your friends during the scary holiday. Oh, not just like a ghost house. But it's like some of the stuff that they were doing in there was real people.

Speaker 2 24:01
I think I didn't watch the trailer for that thinking it was the trailer for the documentary. Oh,

Speaker 1 24:07
yeah. It's like a found footage style film. So yeah, I have to watch it.

Speaker 2 24:13
Oh, and a side note about Trinity Church. So when I was a kid, and we would go visit my grandpa, he went to some church called Trinity something and we would have to go and I fucking hated it. Because it was just like, so long. And I don't remember people speaking in tongues but ah, Uri it is a branch of the Pentecostal denomination which they're all about speaking in tongues and like all that weird shit. So it's part of the Assemblies of God group,

Speaker 1 24:54
man. So it's wild. If anyone has any experiences like that, please write in about oh my god because yeah, If you would like us to share them because yeah, that's a that's just so crazy.

Speaker 2 25:04
So crazy. They have some of it in this documentary. So the documentary is called HAL House came out in either 2001 or 2002. And the documentary is basically filmed on a fucking potato. I don't know if it's because it was 2002 I don't remember watching things from back then and thinking they look that shitty, but stuck elementary just looks like absolute shit.

Speaker 1 25:33
Maybe they're trying to make it scarier. Maybe because I feel like when people try to make stuff scarier, they just like degrade the quality really bad.

Speaker 2 25:41
Maybe or it's just like, low budget and yeah, again, here it is. So the video starts out with this dude named Tim Ferguson, who is the one that created how house. Honey looks like a combination of Ted lasso and Hitler.

Unknown Speaker 26:01
Last, so hold on, I have to look him up.

Speaker 2 26:04
It's a soccer team show. Actually, I need to go grab my phone, because I

Unknown Speaker 26:10
have some clip. Haven't seen that show. Okay. Wow. Yeah, I would say that was a very accurate description.

Speaker 2 26:19
Definitely looks like I'll put a picture on the Instagram. Um, so the dog starts out with him talking about the evils of modern society, and how if we don't change our ways, we're gonna go to Hill. So he created the Hill House to showcase these evils and hopefully get people to change their ascending ways.

Speaker 1 26:39
So I'm sorry, what state is the son, Texas? Oh, shit, okay. My Dallas Dallas area.

Speaker 2 26:50
And then the documentary goes on to show the planning of the event. So they can have a little group together and talking about like, what kind of haunts they're going to do. And Ted less of Hitler says the house isn't necessarily meant to be scary. But, and this is a direct quote, a part of salvation is being afraid of going to hell. So part of his religion he's saying is just based on like, Yeah, I'm scared. I don't want to go to hell. Okay.

Speaker 1 27:29
Like, high anxiety way to live? Yeah. Definitely. Sounds like a cool

Speaker 2 27:36
Oh, we'll get some more fucking insane coltie stuff. So the house is gonna have themes of family violence. Oh my god. Oh, just suicide. Abortion, drugs, drunk driving. And Ted lesser Hitler said in 1999 they added a Columbine saying,

Speaker 1 28:02
oh my god, no. Oh, oh my god. I don't like this. It just feels like a house of just like personal traumas. It's just like, Fuck

Speaker 2 28:15
this fucking documentary. Like, I rented it on Amazon. Because that's the only place I could get it. Fuck Amazon. But I have it for a couple more days if you want to log into my account in Washington news. Looking not okay. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker 28:28
fucking nuts. So,

Unknown Speaker 28:33
they're all brainstorming about different stuff.

Speaker 1 28:37
She's let's stop people. Let's make skid row in the house. Let's do that.

Speaker 2 28:43
Pretty much. Um, so this girl that looks like a very stereotypical lesbian, which is funny because you know, they're at this church thing. She's like, Hey, we should have a scene of two lesbians in a bar. And I'm like, this girl's kissing.

Speaker 1 29:08
Let's have two girls making out oh, I'll be one of the girls. Yeah. Oh my God change actually, I went so uncertainty the other girl

Unknown Speaker 29:24
fucking financing this for real. And

Speaker 1 29:30
the politicians like oh, yeah, we need like, oh hookers and cocaine. Person.

Unknown Speaker 29:37
Yeah, bring the fake cocaine

Unknown Speaker 29:40
in the gay hookers.

Speaker 2 29:41
But Ted last or Hitler says that's taking it too far. And he likes the AIDS scene that they did last year. Oh my just pretty much just a fucking gay dude dying in the hospital. I'll come back to later because it gets way more than that.

Speaker 1 30:04
Oh, that's like actually making me like my back cringe and stuff.

Speaker 2 30:08
It's bad. It's so bad. So then they cut to this white background where they're kind of interviewing the kids that are going to be in the Hill House because they're all like teenage age, and there's a couple younger ones. So they're in front of this white background. And that's kind of like the interview screen that they'll use throughout the movie to get people's opinions on stuff. And so they're asking all the kids like, what? They think hell is like any No, they're all like, it's like you're in love. Difference of like that. So they show auditions for the Hell House. And it's really funny because it's like three adults like sitting at a table watching all this. I have a couple of auditions to show you if you'd like. Yes. Pull them up. But yeah, one of the guys that's watching. He looks like the dad and Beetlejuice. I don't know. Remember that guy. I can't think of his name. Oh, it was like a ginger. That's kind of bold. I don't know.

Speaker 1 31:15
For some reason. I'm picturing Rick Astley. But I know that's like not when you're saying like the kids are describing hell, that would have been incredible if one of them just like went to like a demon voice was like, in the 60s.

Unknown Speaker 31:35
That would be awesome.

Speaker 1 31:36
Women are tortured and gowns.

Speaker 2 31:39
They actually do that later because they were like, skeletal mask. But yeah, so he's watching these auditions, and he's drinking out of a Chick fil A Cup, which I just thought it's a nice little detail. So I'm going to show you a couple audition.

Unknown Speaker 31:56
Yes.

Speaker 3 32:05
It's your own thoughts. And what if you're pregnant? You really want to be your own sister's mother. And that guy is going to physically do you ever want you going to split with your own farmer? Yes, that's right. That's right. Yeah, it's too late. You killed your baby. Your officer. Did we kill someone here

Unknown Speaker 32:39
Oh.

Unknown Speaker 32:58
I should have gotten away from you the second that you started dreaming.

Speaker 2 33:04
So what did you think of those child auditions?

Speaker 1 33:08
I'm not I'm not dissing on their acting or anything, but it almost just seemed like a really poorly executed comedy sketch.

Unknown Speaker 33:18
That is what tire thing.

Speaker 1 33:22
So your own sister baby or sister daughter?

Speaker 2 33:28
Is some fucking weird ancestor, dude, throughout this.

Speaker 1 33:33
I don't know. It's so weird. Because it's like as a normal person. Like, I'm aware of all these things happening, but I feel like my brain doesn't go as far as as theirs. Oh, yeah. Do with it. And it just makes me scared of them.

Unknown Speaker 33:48
It's psychotic.

Unknown Speaker 33:54
They

Speaker 2 33:55
actually I'm gonna wait and talk about the rave part here in a little bit. But um, so the documentary kind of like, follows around the different families and teenagers that are part of the Hill House. Because this is a huge production. I mean, they're starting okay. Yeah, like they fucking like build the haunted house. From the Ground Up. It look like wow, like they have this one room at the end where they're in hell and so they like dug out the floor. So they Oh, like the people going to it could be up here and you were like, looking down on the people. Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 34:29
Oh, that's fucking crazy. I mean, you know that they had a bunch of like, Free Church labor.

Speaker 2 34:37
Oh, god. Yeah. Or whatever. Again, I didn't think about this until you said that. But it's probably all like tax deductible because it's the church. So yeah, I'm probably getting all those tax free or donated. Yeah, so that's a really cool thing I didn't think about great yeah. So they follow this family is a dad had a couple kids and then like an older teenager who's like, kind of one of the main stars of the house,

Speaker 1 35:08
or the parents also involved in the house, or is it just the cat? Okay,

Speaker 2 35:12
so the dad, I'm gonna call him sad daddy, because they fuck this man over in this documentary. Part of me feels really bad for him. But then another part of me is like, he's probably been voting for anti gay bills left and right. And so yeah, him in the long run. From that position. Yeah, I felt a little sad for him. So he's talking about how his teenage daughter is going to try out for the abortion house. Which is kind of different for her just sounds so weird. It's, it's fucking weird. And it's this dad getting all these kids ready for school, and you don't see a mom at all. So all of a sudden, you there's like a toddler eating breakfast and a highchair and said Daddy is like, we have a seizure. And he takes the baby out of the chair in it fucking full on shows this baby having a seizure, oh my goodness, insane. I was like, whoa. So he takes the baby out of the highchair. And like, carries them and sets them down on the bed. And then he's like saying somebody else is calling the ambulance. And then he like says some little prayer or something. And then like, the baby stops seizing. He's like, the word of God has stopped the baby from having seizures. So the ambulance is there. And he's like, telling him like, oh, yeah, like he's okay. Now, like, I spoke the word of God, and it's fine. And apparently, baby has cerebral palsy and the seizures are like part of it.

Speaker 1 36:56
Feel like a doctor still might want to be involved.

Speaker 2 37:00
Luckily, he did call the ambulance because I guess like he said, If the seizures don't stop, then it's a problem. So whenever the baby has one, they just have to automatically call, which is good. He believes in doctors, I guess good. Yeah, definitely not. COVID vaccine.

Speaker 1 37:14
Oh, I talked about that to you. And oh, no,

Speaker 2 37:19
this is like the 2000 like early. But I'm just guessing based on the other stuff. That's fair. So said daddy's driving him to school. And he's asking his abortion Queen daughter. I don't know what else to call her. Abortion queen.

Unknown Speaker 37:47
Me the star of the abortion series.

Speaker 1 37:51
I'm so proud of you. A mandolin? I don't know.

Speaker 2 37:55
mandolins good. She needed a name. Oh, I wonder

Speaker 1 37:58
if she plays the mandolin. Oh, maybe.

Speaker 2 38:04
So he's telling Amanda Lynn like, Hey, I think I'm gonna try out for the family violence room. Which is funny because it's just a scene of him getting its God I feel like,

Speaker 1 38:18
I feel like the family violence room was like his idea too. And he was just like, parents.

Speaker 2 38:23
Well, let's just say I think they borrowed from his story, which we'll get to. And so she's like, No, Dad, like, I can't see you even yelling at a woman. Even if it's pretend. Oh, no, it's not hard for me to pick fair picture. I wish that was hard. Yeah. So he drops a mandolin off at school. And she goes to the school that is belongs to the church. So it shows one of the teachers. That's a Hill House participant, we've seen him already. And he's talking about how this is a Christian school. And everything's taught from a Christian perspective, including US history. Oh, they show books that are like, Christians Spanish one, like all of it is fucking Christian stuff. That's, that's insane. It is insane. Um,

Speaker 1 39:23
there's a Christian college in Mississippi called William Carey University. And I knew some people that went there because and even people that weren't religious kind of still went there sometimes and stuff and but a lot of people, their family was religious, especially they go there. But they I think it's funny, but they offer biology and this person went there for biology. And, um, oh no, in the class, the teacher was like, Oh, I don't believe in this, but I have to teach it. But just so you know, like, I don't believe in any of this. See? And like, I think like, these things are correct. And it's like, like, shouldn't even be allowed. Like, it makes me just like trust degrees from Christian universities a lot less. Yeah. Because it's like, do I know if you learned the proper science? I don't know.

Speaker 2 40:25
It's this documentary made me like, really scared because I mean, this was 20 years ago. Like, it's so much more ramped up now, and people are fucking way more radicalized. But

Unknown Speaker 40:39
we'll have more episodes on that in the future for sure.

Speaker 2 40:42
Definitely. I wanted to look and see if Greg, Greg Locke had any Halloween stuff, but I don't have time.

Speaker 1 40:48
Just the demons and Leia playing shamans. Oh, wait, no, that's the wrong pastor. Whatever.

Speaker 2 40:54
Oh, shit. Yeah, I can't remember which one that one.

Speaker 1 40:57
Yeah, I can't remember his name either. He's just some really really old guy that was just like there's demons in my airplane. So I have to have a private jet. Yeah, I

Speaker 2 41:05
can picture as ugly face but yeah. So one funny thing when they're at the school, they're writing the script for the Hill House. It's that teacher and that was telling us about Christian US history. And somebody else. And they're, they're writing about Magic the Gathering. Fucking script that why? Evil and at one point, they're like, to start out reading goosebumps. And then someone invites you to play Magic the Gathering. Like dude

Speaker 1 41:43
The only thing I can think of is like, sometimes Magic the Gathering can be like kind of tied in with Dungeons and Dragons. I guess. I'm not saying that they are like, infused but I know eventually. nerves. Yeah, no, they did a some series and like secret lair drops where they had had Dungeons and Dragons stuff. Okay, that's all I'm trying to say. Only actually, God. Some of those nerves are some of the fucking worst. Oh my god. They're awful. Okay, so the devil's magic card game.

Unknown Speaker 42:27
Yeah, magic.

Speaker 1 42:31
Those poor children. I just feel bad because this is supposed to be like a fun game. You build an army in new battle.

Speaker 2 42:40
I mean, they just pretend that it's a battle for the Lord. Like, yeah, their likes. They like to do all kinds of like, people say a bunch of shit like that. Like the other day my cousin posted some weird ass video on Instagram. That was like a church video. And somebody commented and was like warriors for the Lord. I'm like, what does that mean? It was fucking psychotic. Oh, no. Like, you're a Christian and you're not a psycho. I'm not talking about you. I'm talking about the fucking

Speaker 1 43:16
You know the ones we're talking about? Yes, not you. So less Magic the Gathering more acting out. Fake abortion. Yeah, fake abortions and family. Family violence, abuse. All of that. Okay. Amazing.

Speaker 2 43:31
Yeah, just amazing. So it shows sad daddy, and his watching Amanda Lee do this cheerleading routine because of course she's a cheerleader. For Jesus. He's like doing the dance along with her.

Unknown Speaker 43:48
Really cute. Like, it's my favorite one.

Speaker 2 43:52
And then I guess like, the cheerleaders, like, throw out candy at the game. And he's like, wanting to have some candy. And she's like, Dad, you have to wait till the next touchdown. Like, Daddy wants some fucking candy. Mini Snickers Damn, bitch. Yeah.

Speaker 1 44:10
Maybe she needs a snicker. She's a bitch.

Speaker 2 44:14
She's hangry. And then it cuts to that little like white interview screen again. And it talks about how her mom met some guy online and had an affair with him. So that's why she's not there. And it wasn't really clear if she ran off with a guy or if like the guy killed her. I don't fucking know. Oh, okay. She's not there because of an online affair.

Speaker 1 44:41
And they just don't talk about it anyway, just don't fucking Oh, man. Oh, man, that makes me scared if the dad is like abusive. I mean, maybe, but like, okay,

Speaker 2 44:58
okay, okay. Yeah, he's 10 He didn't care like five or six kids like, Yeah, I mean, overall Fuck him. But yeah, in the documentary, I feel like it just like, really harps on like him kind of being a loser. Because like, right after she does that little interview, it cuts to him. And he's making a website for the Hill House. And his target about one of the scenes they're going to do is like a guy that finds his wife cheating online. Just take his story for the Hell House.

Speaker 1 45:40
Hilarious. Yeah. Oh, man.

Speaker 2 45:45
It's fucking crazy. And then it goes to this wrestling scene. And one of the people that is in with the Hill House, they're like, not a professional wrestler, but like somebody that you know, performs wrestling in front of an audience. And it is the most depressing thing I've ever seen. They like in a school auditorium. And there's all these old people or they're just like, grimacing, and he's just so fucking awkward. They interview him after and he's like, is this really nice to be able to entertain people? And now I gotta get to the Hill House, because that's another form of entertainment I'm working on. So wait,

Speaker 1 46:29
what was was there like a wrestling scene in The Hill House? Or like,

Unknown Speaker 46:33
oh, no, it just shows him in his personal life. Okay, which ties in a little bit later?

Speaker 1 46:43
Did they also ask sad daddy to just do like a speech after they do this his story, like, have him come out and be like, this happened to me.

Speaker 2 46:52
Apparently said, Daddy, everyone doesn't seem to like him. And he doesn't really get to do anything except for build the website. All right,

Unknown Speaker 47:02
ma'am. Yeah, sounds like his wife doesn't even like

Speaker 2 47:06
he's just always like on the outside, like watching people do things like

Unknown Speaker 47:12
or have any candy. Looking at it. No wonder mom love

Speaker 2 47:22
it. It's so bad. Though. Finally they get to the actual haunted house. And this is where all the fucking crazy shit happens. So there's like this huge line of people. I think they had said the year before, they had like, 13,000 people come through like, it's fucking nuts. So there's a waiting area, and then they take them on this little hill ride like up to the haunted house. At one point, somebody falls off the hay, right? It's just like, under the trailer. They get her up and she's fine. Like, oh my god. Chicka fucking run over.

Unknown Speaker 48:04
Yeah, that's, um, that's terrifying. So she was okay.

Speaker 2 48:09
Yeah. I mean, maybe it would be better. Depending on what kind of Karen this is, so that's to me, and all the kids are like please, she's going to heaven. So we get into the Hell House. The first fucking room that we have is it's not exactly a Columbine type situation. But it's a classroom. And there's like a nerdy kid or misfit kid. And the teacher calls him up to do his book report. So he goes up to the front of the class with those backpack.

Unknown Speaker 48:55
And

Speaker 2 48:57
there's a little, like, black robed figure and it has a skeleton face. And that's kind of like the devil on people's shoulder, you know, telling to do stuff. So the devil is like, Oh, I hate you. Oh, love them hate you. So then the kid takes out a gun and fucking shoots himself in the head. Oh, okay. And all the kids in the classroom are screaming. It's kind of cool how they do the gun show. Because the status it's like bam, they do the lights and everything's like red. And that was kind of cool. Okay. props for that one. Like

Unknown Speaker 49:32
Jeremy by Pearl Jam.

Speaker 2 49:45
The Pearl Jam fans and the Magic the Gathering community hates us now. That's fine. They go to a drug dealing room, which is like the teacher from A school that was riding the Magic the Gathering thing. He has somebody in a chair, like holding a gun to his head. He's like, tell me where the money is right? I'm gonna shoot your little black head off.

Speaker 1 50:12
Oh my god. Wait, and they were talking about Magic the Gathering to you in the scene? No,

Speaker 2 50:18
that's a different one teacher that like wanted to bring up magic.

Speaker 1 50:24
Let's imagine they had like, kids playing Magic the Gathering. We had like people with guns to their heads. Like, it's like, play that fucking weird, man. This is what happened.

Speaker 2 50:37
Then they go to the fucking aids room or the hospital room. So on one side, there's a guy like wearing oxygen dying. His friend is next to him. And of course, you know, she's like, Oh my God, you have AIDS. And then like, the other half of the room, is this girl wearing all white. And there's blood all over her crotch. And just like all abortion

Unknown Speaker 51:07
clean, unfortunately.

Speaker 2 51:13
So there's all this commotion and she was like, I don't want to die. They said, this wouldn't be a big deal. And then like little skull characters, like, now you go into hit. And then it goes back to the AIDS guy. And he has a friend standing next to him. And she's like, Tommy, you've lived a life of sin. You need to accept the Lord before you die. And it's like trying to get him to do that. But then of course he dies. And then the little school characters like hey, go.

Unknown Speaker 51:48
But God gave me a

Unknown Speaker 51:51
Exactly.

Unknown Speaker 51:55
Then it cuts to

Unknown Speaker 51:59
the worst

Unknown Speaker 52:00
fucking scene? I think.

Unknown Speaker 52:04
So.

Speaker 2 52:06
If incest and sexual assault or something you don't want to hear about maybe skip forward for the next like couple minutes. But the rave scene like actually upset me. So it shows a girl. She doesn't want to be at this rave. So she's telling her friend like hey, I'm gonna go. And then these guys walk up and they like, oh, yeah, take this drug. Like I took some a minute ago. It's so fucking fun. So of course, she takes the drug and then she gets like, okay, raped by a bunch of dudes.

Speaker 1 52:46
They made a scene like that. Yeah, we

Speaker 2 52:50
didn't show it in the documentary. But earlier, they were talking about how they were going to do it. And it was basically going to be like her, and they're going to do like strobe lights and just like, like, simulating and or something. Yeah. So she does that. And then it shows her in a room all by herself. And she's crying really upset. Course. And then the fucking skeleton comes in. And is like, do you remember when your dad did the same to you? When you were a little girl like God?

Speaker 1 53:28
This is not like just like, sins and stuff. This is like someone's like,

Speaker 2 53:33
trauma. Fucking trauma. And then you know what happens Jamie? She fucking slits a wrist.

Speaker 1 53:40
Ah, damn. Okay. Wow. I mean, I gotta say, this is nothing that I've like seen in a movie before. But it feels like another thing to like, live acted like in a Yeah, something like this. Yeah, I don't know. It's just this. I'm

Speaker 2 53:54
like, what exactly is the fucking messaging that because she took a fucking pill that she deserves to go to hell, like, Dad. What about the other dudes? Like she hadn't come in? Because she fucking took a pill. Yeah. And

Speaker 1 54:09
aside from that, like they mentioned, Oh, her dad did that to her when she was younger. So I was like, that just fucking came out of like, nowhere had nothing to do with the pill.

Speaker 2 54:17
Absolutely. And then I'm gonna go ahead and talk about the AIDS guy again real quick, and then we'll be done with the weird incest. But so when they go to the hell room, it shows the AIDS guy again. And he says something like, I didn't write it down word for word. But he's like, my uncle did things to me when I was a child. And he told me I was born this way. And now I'm going to hell. What the? Isn't that fucking insane?

Speaker 1 54:55
I don't even I don't even know why they like include that in there. Like,

Speaker 2 55:00
really? Like, why did they have to get abused as kids like, okay, it's one thing if you're gonna be like being gay is wrong. I mean, of course I think that's fucking dumb. But why did they have to get abused when they were kids? Yeah, any of those then

Speaker 1 55:14
like, I feel like whoever wrote it had some issues like that or be doing it themselves or know somebody because they're trying to almost like normalize it by putting us out there like this is just really uncomfortable.

Speaker 2 55:30
It's fucking awful. Okay, so we're gonna be done with that stuff. But that like truly shocked me. Yeah, no, yeah, that's, it's like, okay, this isn't funny. It's not cute. Y'all. If you're gonna do this shit, you need to figure out another fucking way. Yes, it's like harmful to people. Yeah, yeah. And their safety and

Speaker 1 55:52
so bad. I would almost expect to see that at like a extreme haunt. Yeah,

Speaker 2 55:58
like this fuckin church thing. But yeah, apparently they just think like, if you sin like, like, yeah, a devil is just gonna butt fuck you and nobody's gonna feel bad for you. Yeah, but one kind of funny. Sad thing comes up.

Speaker 1 56:19
It's funny, Sad. Sad daddy make a joke.

Unknown Speaker 56:24
But said daddy's in this scene.

Unknown Speaker 56:27
Oh, as well. The family abuse scene. Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 2 56:31
So they go to the family violence scene. And that wrestler guy from earlier. He's playing the drunk dad in it.

Speaker 1 56:39
Oh my god. I just gotta say like, that almost feels very distasteful because of that wrestler like, killed his family. Oh, shit.

Unknown Speaker 56:49
I don't think I knew about that. Yeah, I

Speaker 1 56:51
can't remember his name. fucky I can't remember his name. But yeah, like, because like a lot of wrestlers and sport people get like brain damage. Yeah. And then he just kind of like, snapped one night. And I think it was when a show was like going on. Oh. And he like, killed his wife and kids. And then like, they had to like make up some reason why he couldn't come to the show or whatever. Whoa. I don't remember all the details. But like, that's, that's what they.

Unknown Speaker 57:24
Yeah, well, he's playing the drunk daddy.

Speaker 1 57:26
Damn. Okay. Yeah. So they made all right. I guess they just took this guy's life story too. And

Speaker 2 57:34
so the drunk daddy is like on the couch drinking beers. And there's a girl on the computer. And he's like, What are you doing on the computer? And she's like, I'm just checking my email. And then he like, throws her on the ground. And he gets on the computer and is reading and then he's like, Oh my god, mom's cheating with me. Guys, she met online and it pans over to sad daddy watching this and he's just like, a blank look on his face. Like

Unknown Speaker 58:05
he's just like, I'm so detached from reality right

Speaker 2 58:08
now. He looks like he's just on another planet something

Speaker 1 58:11
out of body experience. Yeah. Well, then

Speaker 2 58:15
the mom walks in and he's like, Yeah, you cheating Hirsi. And then the mom's like, I'm gonna leave and the daughters like take me with you mom. And then the wrestler guy like kills both of them. Wow. Okay. Another innocent child. Like when she have to die.

Speaker 1 58:36
This fucking surplus or whatever it's called. Fucking wrestling move kill them

Speaker 2 58:46
fucking crazy. And then at some point in the movie, they cut to some actually really cool looking kids outside. They're wearing like Papa wrote shirts and like, there's this really cool girl wearing a slipknot shirt. And she has on like, all this rave jewelry. And she's arguing with one of the Hillhouse guys and it's like, you know, these depictions are harmful. And, you know, they're just telling them like, Hey, this is fucking stupid. And there's a guy that's in that friend group. That's like, you're saying because people are an F slur, they're gonna go to hell. He just like says the word a couple times. And like

Unknown Speaker 59:30
it's just funny that he's using that as he's like.

Speaker 2 59:33
Yeah, he says it a couple times. Like, oh, shit. Maybe hopefully you don't say that anymore. Yeah. Yeah. And then it goes back. So I told you a little earlier about the little hotel room. So we just see everybody like, writhing in pain and being like, I should have repented. So that's the end of the actual house. And then I

Speaker 1 1:00:00
was thinking I shouldn't have had those people do those things. I couldn't control.

Speaker 2 1:00:07
Yes, exactly. God, these people are fucking awful. They are awful. So then they go into a little room and there's a guy that's like, Okay, everybody, like the things you've seen here tonight, like, we really want you to think about, like, if you died today, where would you go and like, you have six seconds to decide if you want to go in this next room and have people pray with you. Or if you're just gonna go home, ya know. So a couple of people ended up going into the little prayer room thing, and they have these little clipboards, I guess they're gonna like sign them up for the church newsletter. And then it shows like this cool teen, and he's talking to some other teens about like, how being saved is awesome. And he's like, it's read a cool guys. Cool.

Unknown Speaker 1:00:59
Which I thought was really

Speaker 2 1:01:01
radical viewed. Yeah. And then it cuts to that white screen again. And it's talking about the different teens are talking about how the end times are close, and about how they expect the world to end soon, but they know where they're gonna go. So it's okay.

Unknown Speaker 1:01:19
All right, well, that was like 20 years ago. So I hope that what they're doing nails

Speaker 2 1:01:27
like that. I needed a little more time to do that. But yeah, there's a little black screen that comes on at the end of the movie. And it says, and keep in mind, this was in 2002. In the past 10 years, over 75,000 people have been through the Hill House and over 15,000 of them have been saved. Whoa. And following Trinity churches example. Hundreds of churches around the world have made their own hell houses. Ah, it's so stupid. Yeah. And then I went on Reddit and was looking for one. Apparently, there used to be one over in East Austin, but they don't seem to be doing it anymore. Good. Like them? Yeah. Oh, but what you're saying about like, are they still doing this and like lawyers and stuff? I think it kind of naturally kind of stopped how houses kind of stopped happening, because I think with like, social media being more of a thing there, maybe they realize they're gonna get called out like, there's gonna be like LGBTQ rights groups coming in and being like, Hey, this is fucked up. Yeah, so that's just my guess I could be totally wrong, but I kind of think that's why they're not a thing anymore.

Speaker 1 1:02:47
I don't know. Do you know if they use like, pressure tactics to get people to like, sign up to be saved or whatever?

Speaker 2 1:02:54
I'm not sure. I mean, I'm not gonna put it past them on the hill.

Speaker 1 1:03:00
Because I know it's weird, but I just almost, yeah, I almost just think of it as like a timeshare MLM. Kinda. Yeah, they're like, Okay, we got these people here. Do not let them leave until they sign them. Yeah. So like, yeah, I feel like, sure they have their numbers, but like, how legit are they? Yeah. So Well, that was fascinating. I'm almost I'm just scared to watch it.

Unknown Speaker 1:03:26
It was fucking wild. Like

Unknown Speaker 1:03:30
and it was just so

Speaker 2 1:03:31
bizarre because all throughout the documentary, you know, when they're planning the Hell House they're talking about these like fucking awful graphic scenarios, and they're kind of like, not necessarily laughing about it, but they're just kind of like, oh, yeah, like, that's when the the assault is gonna happen, then you're gonna come in and assault me. And just like,

Speaker 1 1:03:57
like, I feel like we might kind of joke about that stuff too. But it almost feels like a little different and I don't know maybe it's like not different, but it just almost feels like they they don't quite understand the realness and gravity gravity of it. Yeah.

Speaker 2 1:04:14
Like, to me, I feel like if you were gonna do something like this, you would be taking it seriously because you're like, Oh, I'm trying to help people but they're just kind of

Speaker 1 1:04:25
this is a fun thing. way to give back to the community. Yeah, God and it's like, oh, no, this needs to be touched on very appropriately. Yeah,

Speaker 2 1:04:40
yeah. It's, I would love to go to one I really want to go to one I'm going to be on the lookout if anybody knows of any definitely let us know.

Speaker 1 1:04:51
Yeah, or if you've been to one yourself, oh my god. He's like, I like your experience. I would love to hear about it.

Speaker 2 1:04:56
Please. Somebody on Reddit so they went to one and awake Go when you're a kid.

Speaker 1 1:05:02
Oh, I'd love to go to one in Waco. Oh it's pronounced wacko yeah oh anytime I look it up it seems like the only thing is out there it's like those silos just like a Facebook crunchy mom looking kind of place like Yeah, Matt doesn't really seem my my thing. Um but yeah, the haunted house stuff was kind of making me think about the McKinney Manor stuff Alyssa did a lot of some research on it and we did an episode on it I think yeah, I think it was last year yeah. And there's been like a lot of different Makini manner things like online since then. Like there's like just recently like a Hulu documentary. I think there's another documentary that's gonna drop I have been following reckless been on YouTube a lot. He's just like a journalist dude that I have dude. Yeah, I've watched him for a while because he used to do stuff with Scientology just like trying to just expose some things in Scientology and stuff and oh my god anyone that's willing to do that has fucking balls but um, but yeah, so he does like a lot of extreme things to him and his friend Danny so they're like a tightrope walker people and all kinds of like things that are very physically demanding and they can also they're also chill with like withstanding pain and shit like so they try to go through McCain manner and then it's you know, just kind of turns out to not really be what was advertised with all the all the all the things that were in there. Yeah, cuz Danny was like, Please I want the Wasp like you have Wasp in your contract like hurt me. Please hurt me in some way. Like this is what I do for fun. And then um, yeah, Ross the owner was just like, No, we don't want to hurt anybody here blah blah blah. And it's their whole series on McCain manners just incredible. They Yeah, like sleeper cells to like go in the McCain manner. But it turns out there is just like a lot of actual fucked up things that happen behind the scenes even if the house itself may not be real. Um, there's still just some like fucked up real things that actually go on that like has I guess been kind of tried to be kept hush hush for a long time. It's it's, it's wild. I highly recommend watching a reckless spin.

Speaker 2 1:07:46
Yeah, I'm way behind on my McCamey Manor stuff. Like I haven't read anything since last year. And then yeah, I just recently saw the Hulu documentary pop up and I'm gonna get back to this. Yeah,

Speaker 1 1:08:00
yeah, definitely want to maybe do something on it again. One day. Yeah. But I feel like we just kind of have to wait and see all the different things that come out. I feel like my ball is in reckless Ben's court. Because yeah, he's really going out there are a lot and doing like, Nathan for you level things like yeah, he he became an Uber driver so he couldn't coordinate to pick up this one contestant McCamey manner and like further fuck with Ross and stuff. It's, it's he bought the LLC, the Makini Manor LLC and made a Makini went manner website where he just sells like different some different things. Yeah, so it's Yeah, so he basically like owns me. Technically. So yeah, it's, it's incredible. I highly recommend checking it out. And you should also check out our Instagram.

Speaker 2 1:08:59
Yes. And our Facebook and leave a review. Yes, a review would be great. Oh, also if you want a little chuckle look into Jesus Wayne chooses basically basically a thing that this Christian Pash pastor came up with in the early 2000s Because he didn't want Christians to feel uncomfortable and celebrating Halloween so basically where why handout little religious pamphlets.

Speaker 1 1:09:37
Oh, I may have actually kind of encountered something like that. Oh, I remember when I was triggered treating in Hawaii in my little Minnie Mouse costume. Oh, there was I just remember it was so weird to me that it's just like ingrained in my memory. But I remember Seeing these kids like walk back from this house and I was intrigued because it looked like the people like just like told them something but didn't they didn't like get anything or whatever so like I went up and they were just like, we don't celebrate Halloween. I was like, Okay, why the fuck are you standing out here like

Unknown Speaker 1:10:18
to tell you I'm better than you

Speaker 1 1:10:22
Okay, um you could have just stayed inside and turn your lights off like you're making this a thing now like I don't understand

Unknown Speaker 1:10:32
at least we you know people know what how slow roll but yeah, I hope you guys have a better Halloween than that.

Speaker 2 1:10:41
Yeah, and please let us know if you find any houses.

Speaker 1 1:10:45
Yes, let us know. Right any of your experiences. We will be on the lookout for them for sure. And I know it'd be cool to do some little undercover work one day get some some more inside scoops on it. Definitely. That is where our improv skills are gonna go. Yes, yes, yes. But all right. We love you guys a spooky amount.

Unknown Speaker 1:11:10
love you love you.

Unknown Speaker 1:11:12
Wait. I have it on one. Love you. There you go. Have a Happy Happy Halloween Bye

Unknown Speaker 1:11:41
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the legs

open.

Speaker 2 1:11:48
It's okay. No, these spiders are fine. I'm not actually scared. It's just more like ahhh