Explore the Norovirus, aka the cruise sickness, with Jamie. Then Alyssa makes a splash with Daddy Clean Hands and Daddy Clean Hands Jr., and Typhoid Mary (she was fucking shit up a lot). Sorry for the bad accents, enjoy the episode Fat Heads!
Explore the Norovirus, aka the cruise sickness, with Jamie. Then Alyssa makes a splash with Daddy Clean Hands and Daddy Clean Hands Jr., and Typhoid Mary (she was fucking shit up a lot). Sorry for the bad accents, enjoy the episode Fat Heads!
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Speaker 1 0:00
So, Jamie, you know, the story, but I'll fill our listeners in. So our friend Jason, carboy number two... One day he was like, Oh, I gotta go get toilet paper. And I was like, I'll give you a roll. Like, I have a bunch, because I tried to keep, like extra supplies on hand, in case the store is out of stuff, because that seems to happen. Yeah. So I gave him toilet paper. And then, for some reason, like it got brought up later, maybe I asked him for some reason if he was still on that roll of toilet paper. And he was and so it became like an ongoing thing. And we're all like, dude, like, you don't know how to wipe. And he was like, Yeah, I do. Yeah, for like a crazy long time. Yeah, a very long fucking time.
Unknown Speaker 1:11
Maybe he's just like, This is my special. Special.
Speaker 1 1:18
Maybe Jamie and I were at the thrift store a couple of weeks ago. And I got him this little sign that was like, text me if you need toilet paper. But he was over. And he was in our office. And I was on hold with QuickBooks because I had to like change some stuff with our payroll. And usually talk to usually what I do when I'm on hold, I put the phone on speaker and I mute the microphone. But I guess this day, I did not mute it. So I'm like going in on Jason about how he doesn't know how to Weiss. Yeah. Make us better. I'm like going in on him about that. And I'm like, how he was like, I have a system and I just conserve toilet paper. And I'm like, how much are you using? He told me how many squares I go to the bathroom and get that number of squares and hand it now it's exactly what we did. And he like folds it how he would hold it. And like pretends to wipe and then I was like, What the fuck? Like that's not good enough. And he goes, I don't get shit on my fingers. And then the person on the other line picked up. Like, hello.
Unknown Speaker 2:47
Do you know how long they were listening?
Speaker 1 2:50
I don't think it was that long. But I do think it was long enough to hear about talking about anger. So welcome to nervous laughter podcast everybody.
Speaker 2 3:00
Get that shit off your fingers and get those ear pods in your ears. I'm Jamie.
Speaker 1 3:07
I'm Alyssa. Don't get that poop on your nice white air pods. Good point stay in them. But yeah, Allegedly. Allegedly, Jason knows how to use a very small amount of toilet paper and everyone has given him shit about it. And I saw his mom and this topic came up and I was like, did you like it? She She just laughed. So maybe she's like, Oh, I guess
Speaker 2 3:50
um, I did find I saw this TED talk a long time ago that was talking about paper towels and drying your hands and there was a way you could like fold it. And it would just like dry your hands better was just like worn as opposed to like using multiple. It was like in efforts to save treasons shit, I guess. So yeah, maybe it was completely legitimate. But I feel like even if I do just dry wipe like you gotta go back was the fucking wet wipe. Yeah, follow up and just Yeah.
Unknown Speaker 4:24
Jason meet me for classes. I did give that demonstration that brunch one time. And I was like, Yeah, you just get your finger and you gotta get right around, around and around.
Speaker 1 4:40
That's what we were talking about. What was it? Jamie's feet and butthole and just the best name for any business ever. No one can convince me otherwise not
Speaker 2 4:50
gonna be the LLC. For like, anything related to the
Unknown Speaker 4:55
oh my god, please.
Speaker 2 4:59
Um, But speaking about all of this shit Do you Alyssa Do you know what commonly happens on cruise lines?
Speaker 1 5:13
Feel like it's gonna be gross. People get
Speaker 2 5:17
sick a lot with specifically norovirus. Oh, I hope I pronounced that correctly. Sounds right. I'll probably read a little little more about that. But the story that kicks us off is that this is from CBS News. Apparently, hundreds of passengers and crew members fell ill on the princess cruise ships CVD C. D. C says, um, yeah, so a bunch of people on that cruise are sick. But what I thought was kind of a little interesting about this was that I guess that Norovirus is commonly referred to as a cruise ship virus. Oh, really? Yeah, it causes more than 90% of diarrheal disease outbreaks on cruise ships according to the CDC.
Speaker 1 6:13
Already diarrheal disease I'm laughing like fucking
Unknown Speaker 6:22
people get diarrhea for days
Speaker 1 6:30
Wow, I'm such a fucking idiot. But the word diarrheal disease her words. It's really funny to me.
Speaker 2 6:39
I agree. I feel like I've never heard like diarrheal before. So that is a new word for me or a context in which it's used. So yeah, this um, so this article also just like links to I guess a bunch of other outbreaks of this happened on cruise ships. I'm not going to get into all those because it's just basically like, a bunch of people on the cruise get sick and they just have diarrhea. And I think I already talked on the previous on a previous episode about the cruise ship that like Elva plumbing got like that, or whatever. And it was like it was just like shit just kind of everywhere. People were using the showers to like pee and stuff. And it was just backing up everything more. That was, like
Speaker 1 7:29
awful. My sister's about to go on a cruise. I'm going to be like, listen to our new episode.
Speaker 2 7:37
I mean, honestly, this almost makes me just not want to go.
Speaker 1 7:42
Yeah, there's a lot that can go wrong. But the the large amount of people getting a diarrheal disease is terrible.
Speaker 2 7:52
Um, so just a little bit more about norovirus, and this is also from CBS, it seems like they just got a bunch of stuff from the CDC. Um, so norovirus, sometimes called the stomach flu, though does not relate it to the flu virus is a very contagious virus that causes vomiting and diarrhea. Other symptoms can include nausea, stomach pain, fever, headache, and body aches. A person usually develops symptoms 12 to 48 hours after being exposed to the virus. People of all ages can be infected. And you ask how does more norovirus spread and this was the part that just made me not want to go on cruise ships ever. When you are, or quote from the CDC explains, when you are sick with norovirus, you can shed billions of virus particles in your vomit and poop, it only takes a few of those particles to make someone sick. So the illness spreads rapidly if you eat food or drink liquids that are contaminated with the virus touch surfaces and then touch you know, touch your mouth. Or, you know, obviously if you come into contact, like direct contact with a person and like share food with them and stuff. Um, so yeah, and there's no like no treatment for it. You just have to shit for a few days and then just get it done. But I mean, that's how it like, you know, on a cruise ship, like you're so close to all the rooms are close together. There's toilets, like feet from each other like that. So the ship just fucking spreads like crazy. So, yeah, I was just kind of like, ooh, ooh, I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 1 9:34
Yeah, and there's also a lot of buffets on cruise ships. So your attention the same tones like, but my sister and I went I got a couple things off the buffet once and then I was like, I shouldn't be doing this. Yeah. Even before COVID Before COVID You just like see the people on the cruise ship. Some of them just look so like nasty and there's a bunch of kids and like
Speaker 2 10:04
a bunch of drunk people that just aren't really being paying attention to their cleanliness and what they're touching.
Speaker 1 10:10
Yeah, so I would not recommend a cruise ship buffet. Yeah. You know what? I did eat a lot though. Guy Fieri. either head or still has like a Guy's Burger Joint. Cool. So I thought a lot.
Speaker 2 10:26
Nice. Was it good? Yeah, it was really good. Cool. Yeah, cuz I'm there. I saw some restaurant. I think it was like a Guy's Burger thing on favor or something. But whenever we looked up reviews for it, it's not that like it really, really sucked. But then I also recently learned about like, ghost kitchens and shit. And I was just like, Whoa, yeah. Maybe we'll talk about that one. I don't think every ghost kitchen is like bad. It seems like there's some good ones, but the ones that are like, just solid the same shit as like 70 different restaurants like it's, it's pretty crazy. It's so weird. Um, but anyway, that was an interesting little tangent. To cruise on cruise on over to you. But I think Alyssa has some fun that we're gonna cruise into.
Speaker 1 11:19
Yeah. This is actually inspired by Jason and the poop on the fingers comment. Okay, it made me think of this topic that I had heard about a pre pandemic. And then as I was reading through it, I was like, oh, people are the fucking same in the 1900s as they are in 2020 just about hygiene and stubbornness to help other people not be well. Yeah, so we're gonna be talking about Typhoid Mary.
Speaker 2 11:53
I feel like I got too excited for that, like squeezing my hand. I'm excited for this because like, I feel like I've like heard the story but not like, I've just heard it a lot. Never really like went to read it myself. So yeah, I'm excited for for this. Well, there's
Speaker 1 12:09
some poop particles under fingernails. So strap in for that. Otherwise, that's not really very gross. So I know sometimes we get a little gross on here, but this isn't gonna be one of those.
Speaker 2 12:23
be sad because people die. So we'll get to that. Then you're a little bit down. Just kidding. I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1 12:34
So I'm gonna first talk about just real quick. This guy named Ignas. Simon advice. Yeah. Yeah, well, flat guy. He's a Hungarian physician. And I decided his his nickname shouldn't be daddy clean hand.
Speaker 2 12:57
Daddy clean. Love it. I feel like we need like a daddy clean hands mascot. Like clearly. It's something that has been an issue up until this point of time. So
Speaker 1 13:11
yeah, so he was around like, he died in 1865. So this was pre that. But basically what he realized is that there were women would get this thing called Child bed fever, which is basically like they would get an infection with childbirth and he realized like, oh, witness, doctors are fiddle fucking around in the morgue with the corpses. And then we go deliver the babies. There seems to be a correlation. The women gets sick. And it's because there were fucking corpse germs in the lady's vagina area. Oh,
Speaker 2 13:49
I am sorry, my face got like stuck in this like, reaction. That is very, very disgusting. Just to think of them going back and forth.
Speaker 1 14:01
I guess they just wipe their hands off if that I don't fucking know. But it's pretty crazy. Because I guess at the time, he didn't really like to know why people should wash their hands. But he presented the idea and was like, hey, after I touch the corpses when I rinse off my hands less ladies die. And everybody was like, no, they fucking don't. You're saying
Unknown Speaker 14:30
you want us to wash our hands on a man?
Unknown Speaker 14:33
That's No. Daddy clean hands. Oh, sorry. Where's my clicker?
Unknown Speaker 14:53
Good. Okay, I hit my elbow against the wall.
Speaker 2 14:56
So I have a quick question mortician So, um, so do dead bodies just have like a bunch like how much more like bacteria or germs is on like a dead body as opposed to like a clean body, I guess, is more shit. It kind
Speaker 1 15:10
of depends on what they die of, but also like, sometimes dead bodies will do a thing called purging which is essentially like vomiting after death. And then, you know, sometimes people pee or poop or whatever, so it kind of just depends, but yeah, like if somebody's already started decomposing, like, there's just gonna be germs.
Unknown Speaker 15:35
But yeah, during me, oops, you.
Speaker 1 15:37
Oh, yes. Yeah, they were fucking around with that and delivering babies. So lovely. Basically, it's really sad. Daddy clean hands got like, ridiculed so much. He like had a nervous breakdown, and had to go to an asylum. And he got mistreated and died and those asylums were not good back then. No, no, the guards like beat him. And then he got an infection. And
Unknown Speaker 16:05
he's like, I just want clean hand. Wow, okay.
Speaker 1 16:11
Yeah. So I thought I'd talk about that real quick before getting into typhoid. Because Typhoid Mary did not want to fucking wash your hands and it's estimated anywhere from 50 to 120 people died of typhoid because of her.
Speaker 2 16:28
Oh, wait, sorry, say those numbers again. 1550 To
Speaker 1 16:32
120 Oh, wow, fuck, okay. Yeah, she was fucking shit up a lot. So Typhoid is caused by Salmonella Typhi, which I just think sounds cool. So I liked it in here. Basically, you get fever. You can have weakness, abdominal pain, headaches, mild vomiting. Sometimes you can get diarrhea, but considering that this is spread by poop, okay, it's not that common. I guess. It's not known as a diarrheal
Unknown Speaker 17:01
disease.
Unknown Speaker 17:05
But I'm never going to forget the word diarrheal.
Unknown Speaker 17:11
So,
Speaker 1 17:13
Mary Mallon, she was born in 1869. In Ireland, she is presumed that she was born with type typhoid fever because her mom had it. But yeah, so I don't know if maybe like since she got exposed to it in the womb or something like they found out she's a carrier for it, but just it never affects her. Oh, okay. And typhoid can be spread through urine, feces and blood.
Speaker 2 17:44
Okay, so like, Okay, I'm just like, Yo, so she's just like, not so yes.
Speaker 1 17:50
What kind of job she decided to take. I know what it is. Can
Unknown Speaker 17:53
I say yes, she's a chef.
Speaker 1 17:58
This bitch decided to be a chef. Well, I guess I can't say you're aware of her typhoid. Like, I'm not at this point. So I guess I can't get my editor at this point later. Yes. So from the year 1900 to 1907. She worked as a cook. And in that stretch, she worked for eight families. Guess how many had typhoid outbreaks? Eight, seven. Wow. Yeah. So everybody was getting sick. And then eventually, she moved to Long Island and was working in this place called Oyster Bay. And it was a really affluent area. And the guy she started working for out of the 11 people in his house six got sick. Whoa, okay. Yeah, after she started. So the landlord was like, we don't get typhoid typhoid here. Like, it's kind of like a poor person's disease at this time. Yeah, and this is a rich community and more heavens, like, don't have
Unknown Speaker 19:07
been infected.
Speaker 1 19:10
Yeah, very, like this is some like, hobo shit and basically, so the landlord to kind of like, save face is like, we're gonna get to the bottom of this. I'm gonna hire an investigator. Oh, so he hires this guy named George Soper. Which I'm like, this bitch needs so clean. Yeah.
Speaker 2 19:38
Sorry, is this the first house that she's After exporting to the eighth? Okay, okay. Okay.
Speaker 1 19:45
So this was, I guess, kind of the last one at least for a little bit. Okay. So I guess like after people would get sick, like sometimes they would die and she would just move to the next place.
Unknown Speaker 19:57
No one else to feed here.
Speaker 1 20:00
Her old dead so Daddy clean hands JR. He's gonna investigate all of this figure out why they're getting typhoid because it can come from contaminated stuff or like people can travel and bring it in. But I guess at this time, it wasn't really common where they lived.
Speaker 2 20:20
So, so peer or I want to say it like so peer. So peer,
Speaker 1 20:24
now, dirty lady your fingernails. So he starts looking at all the data involved in these typhoid outbreaks. And I feel like I'm saying data was just like pieces of paper. It was 1900 pieces of poop.
Speaker 2 20:46
Threw throughout Saturday night shattered, scattered throughout a room.
Speaker 1 20:51
There's poop samples just like I don't know, I picture it in like a beautiful glass glass dish. I didn't have like paper, plastic like it would be
Unknown Speaker 21:01
or like one of those big like specimen jars with the jars jars of turds everywhere in the room.
Unknown Speaker 21:14
That's a scary visual.
Speaker 2 21:16
Sorry, Rob. I feel like Rob's like for some. He's like you said it
Speaker 1 21:20
wouldn't be courageous. But he realizes that there's a common denominator in all of these fucking typhoid cases. And it's a female Irish Cook who fit the description that he had been given that bitch Mary is Mary. So it will took him a little bit to find her because she's just like hopping around killing people and finding new houses to go to. So George Soper finds her. And it's like, hey, we need some samples. We think that you're connected to this. And apparently Mary got really mad, and threatened him with a carving fork. It was just like a book. No, not me.
Unknown Speaker 22:10
Get the fuck out of here.
Speaker 1 22:13
Oh, yeah, we should get oh god. I got scared. I couldn't come in. Get out. Yeah, get out. Oh, what is that Get? Get out of here. Not the right location at all. Clicking the uterus get out of here. Yeah, there you go.
Unknown Speaker 22:39
Well, let's keep mixing with Boston for some reason. God dammit. Okay, anyway,
Speaker 1 22:43
I do sometimes what I do accents like Jamaican and Italian kind of blend together. Which is a weird, a weird one.
Speaker 2 22:51
I wonder what it is? I wonder for miles makes like a similar shape when I'm trying to do like Irish from Boston. So it just tries to do that? I don't know. I don't know. Interesting. I want to learn about that. Let me know if you're a teacher.
Unknown Speaker 23:04
A mountain teacher
Speaker 2 23:11
a fucking idiot. I believe that could be a dentist, or orthodontist or a speech therapist or a sex worker. Yeah. Yeah. But a lot of descriptions. So yeah.
Speaker 1 23:29
So she doesn't want to give up the sample. And he's like, Hey, we need this. Like, look at all this evidence. And she just gets really mad and says it's from contaminated food and water. Oh, it's like, Well, why didn't you get it? Yeah, if that's true. Does that make sense?
Unknown Speaker 23:51
I'm Mary. I'm strong.
Speaker 1 23:55
Strong stomach. Cast Iron Stomach.
Speaker 2 24:01
Better. Oh, what's the what's the fucking like intestines of the sheep called or whatever? Oh, yeah. Stronger than
Speaker 1 24:14
so most of her food was cooked, which is why sometimes people would get away without getting sick. But her kind of specialty that she loved to make was ice cream with fresh peaches. And none of that was cooked. So she was chopping up those raw peaches with her poopy fingers and then putting it in ice cream and freezing it and here's your poop peach ice cream cherish your poopy peaches, which made me think of the Nathan for you where he's like, we're gonna have this ship flavored frozen yogurt.
Speaker 2 24:49
And that's the end. He's like, you know, I thought about it and that's kind of gross. People want poop involved with their food. I wonder if people were like, Oh, this tastes better than the one laughs Just imagine like, that does remind me a little bit Can I off shoot with our story? So, a very, very long time ago, I can't remember the time but there was this guy named Jon Snow not not from Game of Thrones
Speaker 2 25:23
I matter you know nothing Jon Snow. Um, but so yeah, so he's known kind of basically as like the father of GIS because there was like there was a lot of people getting sick in like these towns and stuff. And in short, he basically found that the cause was this the their drinking source, like people that were using certain pumps, were getting sick. And it's because it got contaminated with doodoo poopoo sewage stuff. But people liked the way that water tasted more, so they wouldn't go to that pump instead of other.
Unknown Speaker 26:12
So yeah, yeah.
Unknown Speaker 26:15
I'd never heard of that. Yeah,
Speaker 2 26:17
I only know about it. Because I did Jas stuff. And I was just like, Wow, that's pretty gross. But cool. Is that when you told me what that is? Oh, Jas is a geospatial information system. So if you are looking at, like, a map that has data on it, that's GIS basically. And like companies will use it to just try to figure out what locations to put their businesses and stuff because I'm like, okay, geospatially like how many people make this much money or have this much education so like the store would work well here so yes, the whole science
Speaker 1 26:53
I was actually thinking about that the other day was I saw some business and I was like, that's not gonna work here.
Speaker 2 26:59
Yeah, yeah. Probably didn't use the right the right information. They
Speaker 1 27:03
are not the daddies of GE. They don't use it.
Speaker 2 27:07
So people were enjoying this poop peach ice cream. Yeah.
Unknown Speaker 27:10
Poopoo Peach was
Unknown Speaker 27:14
well, it was gonna be like a Ben and Jerry's
Speaker 1 27:16
poopy so she ends up getting arrested because she's not giving the samples not cooperating. Doesn't want to wash her hands shit in the jar. I need to add this to my other wall of shit jars. Please.
Unknown Speaker 27:39
Shouldn't in a fucking jar.
Speaker 1 27:41
No, you're crazy. So they end up taking her to the hospital. And for four days, like she can't get up and go to the bathroom on her. Oh, and they're like, Oh, we're gonna like get these samples. So I guess she was just like, trying to hold it. Oh, damn. So she like bought it? Yeah, she saw it. And then they finally got it. And of course there are massive numbers of the typhoid bacteria in her stool. And I guess the her gallbladder was like, the main source of it or kind of where it stayed. I don't. Okay. Don't really know about source. Yeah. And this was where they got her to admit that she almost never washed her hands grow, which wasn't like crazy for that time because Daddy clean hands died in 1865. And this was like early 1900s. Okay, so it hasn't been that long. But I mean, I just felt like it would be kind of common sense that you don't want to get random stuff like poop in the food. I don't know
Speaker 2 28:59
what I mean. They were getting dead people soup around your baby's gashes to the world. This is how you're gonna go out to enjoy
Speaker 1 29:24
Oh, and a fun little side note. I'm gonna read this statement to you and I'm gonna have you guessed the decade
Speaker 2 29:31
okay. The blank timeframe
Speaker 1 29:36
represented a landmark in the evolution of concepts of hand hygiene and health care. Do you want to guess the decade and this is from like a medical journal website I found?
Speaker 2 29:47
I'm gonna say like 1940s 19 8005
Speaker 1 29:59
This says the First National hand hygiene guidelines were published in the 80s, followed by several others in more recent years in different countries. In 1995, and 1996, the CDC slash healthcare Infection Control Practices Advisory Committee in the US recommended either antimicrobial soap or a waterless antiseptic agent being used for cleansing hands upon leaving the rooms of patients with drug resistant pathogens.
Speaker 2 30:31
Ah, okay, so I did this whole hand. Thermal handwashing thing was a newer concept. Crazy concept. Now I know why all the boomers are pissed about like having to be cleaner.
Unknown Speaker 30:47
Yeah, I mean, it really?
Unknown Speaker 30:51
Damn. Okay. Yeah.
Speaker 1 30:53
So I was like, when did hand washing become common? I had to look that up. And apparently, I guess if you went to the hospital in the 50s, or 60s, maybe they rinsed them off, but I don't fucking know.
Unknown Speaker 31:06
I would have never thought to look it up. I just assumed it was around like early 1900s, late 1800s. No, but no. Okay.
Speaker 1 31:17
A lot of boo, boo, peach go. Poopoo everything. Um, so in 1907, they sentenced her to quarantine. And she had to give stool and urine samples three times a week. And authorities were like, Hey, we should remove your gallbladder since that's where the infection is kind of originating. And she refused. Because one, she didn't think that she carried the disease. She's still kind of thinking, like food and water. And then also, like, I guess taking your gallbladder out was pretty dangerous at the time.
Unknown Speaker 31:54
I mean, they didn't wash their fucking hands.
Speaker 1 31:57
Just so pretty dangerous. Yeah, but this is where I kind of started to get like the reminiscence of like, COVID era. Like, I don't want a fucking mask in somebody's mouth. Not to
Speaker 2 32:10
wash my hands after I use the bathroom, which like, we are. We've already talked about that clip we saw where the girls of those women were like, Yeah, I don't wash my hands after use bathroom. It's not a big deal. And like a lot of people don't I'm like, Ah, oh, then you guys go touch things at stores and go on a cruise ship and give everybody fucking norovirus.
Speaker 1 32:37
Hey. So in 1909, she's been there for two years at this point. She tries to sue the the New York Health Department because she feels like she's a guinea pig and she's being like, wrongly imprisoned. But after two years and 11 months, her quarantine was ended. They just told her years. Almost three. They told her well let you out. But you gotta wash your fucking hands. Like you've been quarantined. You just need to make an effort to not get people sick. And you can't be a cook anymore. Because it's just too dangerous. In case you don't wash your hands. Yeah, we can't let you be a cook anymore. So the police told her this. Yeah, like the health department and it was like, Okay. Legal and health department. Wow. Okay,
Speaker 2 33:41
so like the government was like, Yeah, you dirty bitch.
Speaker 1 33:45
Yeah, like you need to do this crazy new concept called handwashing. says like, it's my right to nah, I'm an American. I'm not gonna wash my hands. No. So after that, she was like, okay, instead of a cook, I'm going to be a laundry worker. Do all that but the money wasn't very good. So she decides Fuck it. I'm going back to cooking.
Speaker 2 34:18
Ah, this is why like people get held like in jail in things so they don't keep hurting people because they decisions Yeah.
Speaker 1 34:34
Yeah, so But when she did, she just used a different last name. She kept her first name is Mary. And she had like a couple like I think one of them. This doesn't sound right. But I was gonna say I think one was Mary Brown, but I just think I'm thinking oops, that's probably not Mary Brown.
Unknown Speaker 34:56
Oh, that'd be funny if she did that. Like fuck you guys.
Speaker 1 35:00
Do what I want makes my poopoo so yeah, she worked at like all these different fucking places like restaurants, hotels, spas, and everywhere. She felt good when there were typhoid outbreaks. So she was like always changing jobs. She had these this fake last name. So George Soper, daddy clean hands Jr. It took took him a while to track her down. And in 1915, Mary started working at Sloane Hospital for Women. So it comes right back around to 13 people in the Women's Center.
Unknown Speaker 35:37
She like gonna be birthing. Okay, I was like, Ah,
Speaker 1 35:43
she's a cook at the hospital. And soon 25 people are infected at the hospital and two died. Ah, so the head obstetrician called Daddy clean hands Jr. and was like, hey, we need you to do an investigation so pure now.
Speaker 1 36:08
But Mary fled, and it took her a little bit, took them a little bit to find her. They ended up finding her in March of 1915. And she stayed in quarantine until her death in 1938. Wow. So she was in quarantine. for like three years of her life. Yeah. Just because she was like, I will not fucking wash my hands like
Unknown Speaker 36:37
so hard headed and stubborn. Like, yeah,
Speaker 1 36:42
I mean, part of me. It was like, I guess I can kind of see it because hand washing was like a new idea. But all these doctors were like, Hey, you're killing all these people on? She's just like, No, even though I'm doing the same thing as them and I'm not dying. Yeah, it's not me.
Speaker 2 37:05
Yeah. Like you just happen to travel when everyone like dies and you're awake. And you're like, a normal part of life. Yeah, damn.
Speaker 1 37:16
And it was interesting, because I was reading the Wikipedia and it was talking about how like, different ethical concerns were brought up in this time period. And there were like, whole groups that didn't think she should be quarantined. Oh, I was like, Oh, it's just still the same stuff. Yeah, nobody ever learns. So pretty interesting.
Unknown Speaker 37:39
Wash your hands. Yeah. I'm sure a lot of you already do. But if you don't just do give it a try. Yeah, give it a try. Try something new.
Speaker 1 37:52
If you don't like to wash them, let us know. We will send you a nice scented soap.
Speaker 2 37:59
We'll put our sticker on it. So yeah, it'll be a nervous laughter hand. So
Speaker 1 38:03
yes, we will be happy to provide that if you would like one.
Speaker 2 38:07
Maybe something with a little moisturizing baby agent in it. Yeah, well, we'll hook you up. Maybe throw a little a little nice smelling hand sanitizer in there too for you. can do that for you?
Speaker 1 38:22
But yeah, isn't that the craziest story? Like she just did not. Except the
Speaker 2 38:29
doctors and everyone was like, Hey, this is an issue. You might even consider getting surgery. Just like no, no.
Speaker 1 38:39
Even if it wasn't for the doctors just imagine like everywhere you went like you said people just fucking died like yeah, alone and like you wouldn't have some introspection and be like, Is this me?
Speaker 2 38:51
Yeah, what's happening? And just like to, I had no idea that she was in quarantine for like two years and then like 13 years. Or how combative she was was like giving a sample like damn, could you imagine just like biting off someone that's trying to get your poop for four days not doing
Speaker 1 39:18
it just imagine when she finally decides to just like throwing it at them like a monkey or something like
Speaker 2 39:26
she didn't get out of here. That was not a good day. Damn. Yeah, that's um, that's really wild. I'm glad there's lots of handwashing precaution things in place today, but it's um it's only been around since the 80s. I guess. So I'm just kind of I feel like we need to like the world needs to be educated on washing stuff.
Speaker 1 39:56
Yeah, I mean, you know when all the COVID stuff started happening Hang in all those ads about like, washing your hands. I'm like, wash them for this long. I'm like, ooh, fuck needs this other than kids. And then we come to realize most people
Speaker 2 40:13
Yeah, yeah. Yeah. It's um it's very eye opening and a little shocking to be like, Whoa, okay, some people just really have no regard for any kind of health now, concerns for other people. Well, that's great.
Speaker 1 40:31
I will say like learning about the story. It has made me think differently about foods and about who prepares foods and yeah, for sure. I typically will not eat anything made by a child if it's not been cooked,
Speaker 2 40:47
although we did get horchata Oh, God, children today.
Unknown Speaker 40:51
Wow. Thanks for making me look like a liar. We get this all the time to ception Yeah,
Speaker 2 40:59
we went to this little art thing art festival we think by my house and there was a couple little girls there with like a lemonade booth. And
Speaker 1 41:12
their parents were supervising. Yeah, so but maybe not very well.
Speaker 2 41:16
Um, but yeah, they were like, oh, touch the money with like this hand and like don't touch other stuff. You only touch the food with your gloved hand and stuff. And it was just like, I guess the I learned sometime, but maybe.
Speaker 1 41:31
Yeah, so Jamie and I may be getting poopoo horchata right now and might be violently a
Speaker 2 41:41
little dash of cinnamon a little dash of poop. Well, we'll see. We may
Speaker 1 41:46
be dead from the Norovirus slash, typhoid fever by the time.
Speaker 2 41:53
Let's go on a cruise before we die. Okay, spread it to everyone else. Yeah, I'm definitely um, yeah, thinking about who's preparing my food more. And I mean, if you've listened to this podcast before, you know, there's just poop Park particles just fucking everywhere. So I mean, wash your hands just to try to avoid getting it in your mouth as much as possible. Like
Speaker 1 42:22
Oh, yeah. And I wanted to say before we close that the first time I really like heard about this story was on my favorite murder. Oh, yeah, me too. I think yeah. Cool. Yeah, they have an episode. It's called Brooklyn city. And they talk about this. Yeah. And I read on Wikipedia, too.
Speaker 2 42:41
And Karen Kilgour does a actually very good
Unknown Speaker 42:44
Irish Irish accent
Speaker 2 42:45
so I think yours was pretty good. Thank you. Thanks. Yeah, thank you. I'm not gonna say not gonna say anything else. No accent because I feel like I'm not gonna be able to do it. Well, so
Unknown Speaker 42:55
why not shame me.
Unknown Speaker 43:01
Cuz I'm because I'm getting nervous. Nervous. I'm getting nervous. Getting nervous. Almost done. Do you want to ask your Irish follow us on Instagram. Follow us on Instagram. Facebook, and you can email us your favorite stories at nervous laughter podcast@gmail.com And I feel like I'm losing it now. So party on fattens party on Saturday. Party on I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 43:50
Party on donate poopoo peach No.
Speaker 1 44:06
It's presumed that she was born with type typhoid fever because her mom had it when she was in practice. I was gonna say pregnant I'm pregnant.
Speaker 2 44:22
It's just the Southern way. When your mom was impregnated with, she got pregnant, impregnate. pessimistic. Impregnated
Speaker 1 44:40
is because a lot of the time she cooked the food you know, it was like stew or soup. Are you okay? Yeah, I
Speaker 2 44:47
just invited me strength broker. I have a second one that's black, but it's okay. Super, super good. Dammit. The spine needs to not play was
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faster