Join the ladies on a lawless cringe journey! Alyssa takes us on a depressing journey with the famous/infamous Travis the chimpanzee. Jamie lightens the mood with the best game ever…Stupid in a Texas or Mississippi way? Yeeeehaw!
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So remember how we went to the thrift shops the other day and I got that laser Well, I put it on the other day and like my hands in the pockets and there's like tissues and they love
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I'm sorry. I was hoping you're gonna say it was the 20 or something?
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Oh, yeah, no, because this is the nervous laughter podcast.
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Welcome, everybody.
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I'm Jamie.
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I'm Alyssa.
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And we're your hosts who? sit outside on the street on some steps and listen to Limp Biscuit.
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Yes, we do. And there was one lady that walked by and gave us a weird book. So that was nice. But suppose it wasn't more though. Yeah.
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What did we expect? You know,
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where you're trying to get hyped up for improv show? And what a better way? Yeah, what a better way. I think it helped. Yeah,
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I think it helped me to you. Yeah, for sure. Um, and I do have a little something for you. Oh, thank you. Oh,
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nice. My present.
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That's a throwback from when Alyssa fala delivery person
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oh my god, I can't wait to use this every day. Well, yeah. So it's a sexy, creamy and doing a sexy pose that says please don't beg. Yeah. Whenever did you find this
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on eBay after you found that mug on Facebook store? I was like, Oh my God. Let me see what I can find.
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I can't wait to drink out of us every day. Oh, yeah.
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Oh, yeah. Whenever I found one that just said like, please don't beg. I was like, Oh my god. Okay,
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so if I ever have people, like, I don't know why my mother in law would come over and look in my cabinets. And be like
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is this a licensed Eminem? Oh, yes. It says official licensed Eminem Pro. 2016. Like, what? Not even terribly long ago? No.
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That's when they were leaning into sexy green. Sexy Eminem.
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Now, everyone's an androgynous person with flat shoes. I'm trying to be Tucker Carlson.
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Oh, man. Thank you so much. Yeah,
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you're welcome. Yeah,
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very excited. I sorry, I don't have something for you. But it's okay.
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You. You give me random gifts. Plenty. Let's just on the record.
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Thank you. People don't think a I don't get firstever
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for a student gives plenty of random gifts to her friends and my love language delivery people and everything too. Good.
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I do have the gift of a Fast and the Furious story for you. Which is perfect because I just watched it last night. So did you know that they have a new movie coming out? Are you serious? Do you don't know? No, it's not in space. I think it's like final, not Final Fantasy. Final Fantasy instead of Fast and Furious, but I think it's called like x like 10 or it's like the final something. So it has Jason Momoa in it. and from the trailer it looks like he and Vin Diesel are beefing for some reason. And yeah, the trailer. You've gotta watch it. It's fucking awful. I'm definitely gonna go stand in the theater. There's a point where they're driving on the highway and two fucking helicopters come in, oh my god drop down something and like hook Vin Diesel's car, like lift him up. And then somehow he does something and the helicopters crash into each other and fall to the ground. I cannot wait
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to see Oh, my God. Okay. Yeah, we're gonna have to go see that one at Alamo when? Yes, absolutely.
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And then the best part like, we're sitting there and the trailers going and that says, you know, Fast and the Furious The final whatever the fuck. And this lady behind us goes, Oh, does that mean it's the last movie? And the guy she was with ghosts? I hope so.
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Please, god they already went to space with I think it really went to space. Yeah. And like the last one they had. It was ludicrous. And the other some other guy they like slung a mountain to like space and then they came back down.
Unknown Speaker 6:30
Wow, I didn't know that. I'm gonna have to watch that. I've only seen like bits and pieces of them. I've never like watch them all the way through. But I think I might need to have a marathon before we can see the new one. Yeah, that's
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kind of what I want to do, too. We like watch them all last year, but um, I was so in and out of kind of like watching a perfect movie to do that. So yeah. So excited. There's another one.
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Well, after watch the trailer together, I want to see
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what was the Brandon's reaction? Like so that's really exciting.
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Yeah, and then at one point what's his name? Jason memo was like, the problem with having a big family is you don't know who all you're gonna save. Is it something like that? Yeah, so it looks awful. But also amazing.
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Or maybe more people got amnesia, because like Lenny had gotten amnesia and one of them.
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Amnesia plotline. Yeah. That's one of my favorite lines ever.
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Well, you're gonna enjoy, just like binging all covers every kind of plotline. You would want.
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Is there an evil twin at any point? I also love an evil twin. I
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don't think maybe, maybe yeah, maybe the new one and maybe that's where like the family beefing stuff. Yeah, drop your fasten furies predictions below.
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We'll have to do an episode about it after we guess is yes.
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Yeah. Cool. And then we'll also maybe just brush up on some other Fast and Furious things to add in there.
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We shouldn't both kept bald caps.
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diesel tank top two
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for sure. Yeah. Is I knew he was also in triple X. I don't know if that's like a whole series. But did you watch those two?
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Yeah. And it's funny because I specifically remember it because I think it was was it the third one that had ice cube in it?
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Oh, I don't know. I never saw it.
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And I mean, my friend got like a bunch of candy to sneak into the movie theater when we went to see it. So let's just was perfect. Yeah.
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We can do that too. Yeah. Well, horrible segue. Yay. Speaking of Fast and the Furious, they break laws in that movie by driving recklessly. Yes. And we're gonna be talking about laws. Yeah.
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Disclaimer, we are not lawyers, or I am professor. Oh, I'm
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secretly working on my law degree. Let's be lucky. I'm here to say I did it. So I'm going to be talking about laws regarding animals.
Unknown Speaker 9:43
There should be more. There should be more
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because well, I won't get into that. It's kind of depressing. But there's a recent thing. This was last week. Did you hear about the alligator in Buda now? So I'm just gonna kind of paraphrase this but I'm in Buda, which is about, I don't know, 40 minutes or less from depending on where you are in Austin. Zoo, the game warden got a tip, I guess that someone had a seven foot alligator living at their house. Wow. And they're like, Yeah, we gotta fucking confiscate your pet. And yeah, that's definitely illegal in Texas, which is actually kind of surprising. But the alligator got re homed to the animal world and Snake farm Zoo. And I don't know if it's
Unknown Speaker 10:41
better. I don't know anything about that place, but something inside we get that he misses his family.
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So I have a direct quote from the
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alligator. I want to go. Like I'm the warden of the Texas Parks and Wildlife. This is a direct quote. Alligators don't make good pets y'all. Y'all knew that but I don't like good pets. But basically, the lady that had him she was a volunteer at this place that he got taken to now the animal world thing. And at some point she sold the alligator either when it was like still in an egg or when it was like newly hatched. Oh, she's had it for 20 years. Why in her fucking backyard and it's seven feet long.
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Wow. Yeah.
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Damn. Did she name it does have a name.
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I didn't see a name. But would you like to give it a name? I put you away on the spot.
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Do you Diesel?
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Diesel. Diesel the alligator like it? Thank you.
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You're welcome. It was my Jamie boys. So
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when diesel Daddy Daddy
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should be the name of the episode so now I have some definite dark cringe. Yay. Oh no. It's pretty fucking crazy. Have you ever heard of Travis the chimpanzee?
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Um,
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I'm not 100% But I do know some like scary like chimpanzees on the loose. Like have this pet kind of on the loose stories.
Unknown Speaker 13:00
Yeah, I bet you've heard of Travis.
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Okay. Please continue. I'm so excited. I mean, scared and excited, you know? Yeah.
Unknown Speaker 13:08
So a couple different laws got made because of Travis. So I got my information from Wikipedia. I also listened to an episode of The get out alive and animal attack podcast, which I fucking wait to listen more. Oh, there's the whole podcast. Yeah. Okay,
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yeah, I cannot
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fucking wait. The episode is called Travis the pet champ. And then I also listened to an episode of a podcast called the Dark Hour. And the episode is the case of Travis the chimp. So highly recommend those Yeah, um,
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is this in Florida?
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It is in Connecticut. Oh, okay. I had to stop and think because I'm like, that does sound very foreign. Um, so Travis the champ was an infamous champ for many reasons.
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Before the whatever incident or
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yeah, oh, well, I guess it was more he was famous and then turned infamous. Now I'm like, am I using that word wrong? I have no idea. Don't tell me if I am because I feel self conscious.
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Infamous. She imp
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Yeah, she imp right
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So Travis, in his early life, he was living with a family. He was in a Coca Cola commercial, real family man. Yeah, until 2009 When he mauled his owners friend. Yeah, so a friend. Oh, yeah. So not even the fucking bitch that like had him as a pet. Her friends. Yeah, so yeah, totally shitty. So there was a couple in Stamford, Connecticut named Sandra and Jerome Harold. They wanted a baby chimp, I guess. So they purchased Travis for $50,000 from a breeder, and this was, I'm not going to try to do quick math, but the 90s Nice. Okay. Yeah. Travis died in 2009 when he was either 13 or 14. There's debate. So some time have been cool. And the facts on this. I'm not gonna get to like fact base because there's kind of like variations like, some people say he grew to be 200 pounds. Other people say closer to 250. But he was bigger than he was supposed to be because he was like a pet and a family member. American. Yeah, yeah, definitely. So his parents, Susie and Coco. They lived at like a wildlife preserve. And they were both kind of aggressive. And at one point, Suzy was shot and killed because she was like, trying to break out and there was some chaos and aggression. So yeah, so they got traveling. The
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animal didn't want to be in the cage. Fuck yeah.
Unknown Speaker 16:30
Yeah, so they got Travis when he was three days old. He was the Harold family's constant companion. He was kind of famous in their town, because I mean, they were taking him to the grocery store. Like, it was like it was their kid.
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They put like little like, button up T shirts on him and stuff. And they're just like walking around the store.
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They had a towing company, and they would have Travis like, pose for photos with the tow truck and he did a white bear mask.
Unknown Speaker 17:06
That's cute.
Unknown Speaker 17:09
Nope, I love it or hate it. But like if if the animals seems overall okay, I mean, it sounds like they didn't like cage. I'm gonna abuse them. Maybe or maybe they did. Maybe that's what you're gonna get into too. But like,
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I think they didn't do that. But they took it too far. Like he's a fucking chimpanzee. Yeah. So like, what I'll get to here in a second. They like socialized him like a human. I'm one of their neighbors said that like he listened better than like her kids. Oh, he was very well behaved. So Travis could open doors using keys? No. I hate that. No. Yeah, too much human. Yeah, that's no, no, he could dress himself water plants. He would feed the neighbor's horses. He ate at a table. And when he got older, he would drink wine from a stem glass.
Unknown Speaker 18:11
I don't know if he should be given. I mean, yeah, maybe if they just have like a rough day, but
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you could fling your shit. Like, man, I gotta have a drink.
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Give me another 99 bananas. Isn't that what?
Unknown Speaker 18:32
I think so that sounds familiar. He was so smart that he even learned the schedule of the ice cream truck that would pass by trying to get to working on it. But yeah, champs, there's kind of a debate about how their intelligence falls like some people think that they're like a toddler. Other people think it's less than that. Other people think it's more but um, like he was more intelligent than a toddler if he knew the schedule the ice cream truck like
Unknown Speaker 19:07
Yeah, yeah, I think pets are like a lot smarter than people give him credit for. And understand like a lot. A lot. A lot.
Unknown Speaker 19:18
I agree. Yeah. He brushed his teeth. He would get on the computer. He used the remote control for the TV, watch baseball. And he had also driven a car on several occasions. Yeah, that's cool.
Unknown Speaker 19:33
I mean, it's scary, but also cool. Like it's impressive, you know? Yeah. Do you think he was getting on like, aim back in the day?
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screen names like chimp boy one
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banana lover. Getting in the wrong chat room. By now
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So Travis, you know, he's growing older shaping girls to go to a Harley. So, you know, with most domesticated pets, what you do is get them spayed or neutered. Well, I guess you don't really do that with monkeys. So are chimps. I'm just probably gonna say monkeys. I know it's different things, but frankly, I don't care. I'm gonna say it wrong. So yeah, he is like this fucking huge animal. And he's like, Oh, horned up and doesn't have any monkeys to fuck. So he starts getting aggressive. I looked it up. And chimpanzees typically lives live in pretty big family units. It could be like 50 to 100. Damn, yeah. So he was with, you know, two people full time, and then other people occasionally. So he's maturing. And then Jerome, which was this human dad. He died in 2004. from cancer. Some sources were saying that he was telling Sandra, you're not gonna be able to take care of him alone. You gotta get rid of him. And she was like,
Unknown Speaker 21:25
damn, yeah, that's hard. Because it's like it's a few humanize the monkey
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but yeah, yeah, they trained him to pretty much be the kid. Oh, and before that in 2000, there are actual human child, they only had one died in a car accident. Oh, so he died in 2000. Jerome died in 2004. So I just Travis was like really struggling. I mean, he was already aggressive. Because, you know, he's in this weird environment doesn't have any other monkeys. And then like, his dad died, and different sources have said different things about it. But I heard one thing that he would like, kiss this picture. And like grieved, and yeah, super fucking sad. Yeah, that's heartbreaking. Very sad. But then Sandra gets extra fucking close with Travis. No. Check off situation that we know of, but they did sleep in the bed together every night. Like
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and what kind of like just like a Pettway. Like, because like, that's true. I sleep in my bed. You know? Yeah. Under the covers, and they were like cuddling. Yeah, okay. Yeah,
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I mean, it was like, if you slept in a bed with another person? Yeah,
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like spooning? Yeah. Yeah.
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So there's a quote from her.
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I don't want to hear it and I don't want to hear it.
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It's stupid. Okay. You slept with me every night until you've eaten with a champ and bathed with a champ. You don't know a champ. Ah. They were very close. Okay.
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Yeah, basil, the temp. All right.
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Yeah, no, thanks. So Travis at this point, he's like, five, six. So he's my height. Damn, he weighs anywhere from 200 to 250 pounds, dude. Yeah, he's
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bigger than me. I'm like,
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yeah. And in the pictures of him. You can tell like, he's overweight. He's not like monkeys usually. Don't look how he looks. I think they males get up to like 150 pounds in the wild. But when they're in captivity, you know, they're not getting exercise regularly for Jones. Yeah, they're eating ice cream. And while they get a little heavier,
Unknown Speaker 24:06
I don't know if I told us on the podcast, but um, a long, long time ago, my school went to the New Orleans Zoo. And our school got we were not invited back again. Because some kids put gave like, a monkey like a hamburger and a shirt into the enclosure. And so like Yeah,
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fuck kids. Yeah.
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We're shitheads Exactly.
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Monkeys are powerful.
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I don't like them. I'm just gonna come out and say that any form of me that
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on record. Well, I've seen playing an ova the old and the new one.
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They are fucking scary. So yeah, they're getting sued. We're close and everybody around Sandra's like, hey, you need to get him to a wildlife preserve. She's like 70 years old at this point. I mean, she's not like a young woman anymore. Yeah.
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She has this huge Jane Goodall either. Yeah.
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Oh, but I'm gonna backtrack a little bit. So before Jerome died, and oh four, in 2003 the whole little family is riding in a car together. And the windows down and somebody threw a bottle and it hit Travis, Larry at a stoplight. So he like got out of the car and like fucking chase this person, holy shit. And he was missing for several hours and the police had to pursue him. And like bribe with ice cream car. And everybody was just like, oh, Travis. Nothing happens. Geez, well, I won't say nothing happened. I guess. This incident led to Connecticut passing a law that people could not keep primates weighing more than 50 pounds without getting like a an exotic pet permit. But I guess Travis got grandfathered in because everybody's like, Oh, that's the tow truck monkey. Yeah,
Unknown Speaker 26:20
man, I feel bad was so like, was that bottle
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thrown on purpose or sounds like it was like, Hey, fuck you, Travis.
Unknown Speaker 26:29
Bad. He's just getting like picked on for being a monkey. Like,
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you won't feel bad for Travis here. And I mean, I do but yeah, it's Yeah, he did some shit. So I guess like after this and Jerome died, like, Travis just didn't wasn't allowed to leave the house anymore, because he was too unpredictable. And he was dealing with some shit from losing his dad and some writing bad checks, bad checks, stealing cars. He allegedly hadn't left the house in four years. So I mean, with how smart he was. He was probably just going fucking crazy. And
Unknown Speaker 27:14
yeah, damn. Yeah.
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So Travis knew
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a friend of the family name Sharla. I guess her and Sandra had been friends for years. And she worked at the tow truck company that Travis had, or that
Unknown Speaker 27:39
I'm sure it would have been one of those things where they would have like, left everything to Travis. Had he lived longer. But there's a friend named Sharla. She had been telling Sandra like, hey, you need to get him to a sanctuary. Sandra just couldn't do it. Which that would be super hard. And I mean, it's easy for us to be like, oh, yeah, you should have done it. But that would be really sad. Yeah. What she should have done it.
Unknown Speaker 28:05
Yeah, I agree. But yeah, I can I can understand the struggle of like basically your
Unknown Speaker 28:11
kid. Yeah, definitely. So on February 16 2009. Travis is really acting up. He's just being really aggressive running around the house not listening to commands. So Sandra calls up her friend Sharla I don't know she told Sharla this on the phone or not. But Sandra and Travis had had some tea together. And Sandra had put Xanax in his tea to try to calm him down who because they kept like taking her car keys and like go into the car and like he either wanted to dry over go
Unknown Speaker 29:01
is kind of a silly absurd situation like
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ridiculous that people put themselves in these situations with animals like yeah, like the thing was Peter the dolphin and it's just like, it's like an animal dude, like, not a domesticated animal like cats have been domesticated for a zillion years. But yeah, don't jerk off dolphins, or any animal.
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take anything away from this episode or podcast as a whole.
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Take this. So Charla comes over she's going to help out with like, how are you going to help out? I mean, I'm not victim blaming her but like
Unknown Speaker 29:45
if I had to assume it's like, another lady that's like her age and stuff too. So it's like to old elderly women.
Unknown Speaker 29:53
She was actually a little younger. I think she was in her 50s at this time. Sandra is on her side. Haven't you so I guess she's like a younger woman. Maybe Sandra thought she could do something. So Charla,
Unknown Speaker 30:07
hey, I want you to come wrestle my fucking champ to the it's okay, he took some
Unknown Speaker 30:19
So okay, so stupid. Um, so they call, she called Sandra. I don't know if she told her about the Xanax. But I guess, um, Travis was also on medication for Lyme disease, which I thought was an interesting Oh, well, I'm diseased does weird stuff to people. So I would assume it would be the same with monkeys. Yeah. And I guess like, monkeys can take a lot of the same medications as humans. It's just you have to adjust the dose. So yeah, who knows if how much Xanax she gave him or?
Unknown Speaker 30:58
Oh, yeah, if that had a reaction with the medication or disease or anything? Yeah.
Unknown Speaker 31:03
Yeah. So I have a little thing in here before we get to the fucked up part about chimpanzees. Just to kind of tell you how big they are. So evidence from fossils and DNA sequence sequencing have shown that common chimpanzees like Travis, they're like the closest to humans. Yeah. Genetically and stuff. Yeah, like I've said they can get up to five, six. There's record of them being like 300 pounds in captivity. Their arms are longer than their legs. So they've got reach fucking range. Apparently, even like zookeepers don't like to go into their enclosures, because they're, in a way kind of more dangerous and unpredictable than lions and other shit.
Unknown Speaker 32:02
Yeah. Then they'll steal your hat. Yeah. Yep, they will.
Unknown Speaker 32:11
This says that a chimpanzee has the strength of five adult men. Well, yeah. And the thing I found said that they can lift 1200 pounds. Whoa, so you're fucked, basically. So Charlie got out of the car. She had Travis's favorite Tickle Me Elmo doll, so she was gonna try to like appease him, but she had changed her hair. And it's thought that maybe Travis like in his agitated state didn't recognize her or saw the doll and just like lost it. So he flew into a fucking rage and attacked Charla, and I guess the thing that chimps do. They're pretty fierce fighters. They'll rip off your hands and feet, so you're pretty much like defenseless and then they can like really go for you. Whoa. So that's what happened to Charla. Oh
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fuck, God. Getting your fucking feet and hands ripped off with a Yeah. And like, whoa, Sandra
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is just like, What the fuck? She actually got a butcher knife and stab Travis. But even that didn't stop him. Well, he was just going insane. She finally gets the phone and calls 911 They clipped a little bit of the call into the podcast. I listened to you. I don't think I would want to listen to the whole call. But she's freaking out because she thinks that the charlas dead because after her hands and feet like He basically took off her face. Like nothing really left just blood. And ah. Oh. Yeah. So she stabs him. You can hear in the call like him just screaming. It's fucking terrifying. Yeah, um, basically, she's like, locked herself in a car until the cops come. They think it's a prank call at first because you know everybody's like cool with Travis. Oh, okay. Okay, okay. Broken stupid. I mean, why would you think that
Unknown Speaker 34:41
he wrecked my friend space. Silly girl. Travis would never
Unknown Speaker 34:50
Yeah, so the cops get there and they're like, What the fuck? So the cops are trying to like do Travis off a Charla. And they're like ready to shoot him and then Sandra she has been locked in the car she comes out and it's like no Travis and like fucks up they're like shot. Oh, so finally they're able to shoot Travis any it's officer Frank chi Afari he shot him four times. That was only the second time that he'd used a service weapon the first one was to like put down a deer that got hit by a car. Oh, and then he like does this and then Travis finally stops he goes inside the house and dies
Unknown Speaker 35:43
but yeah, the
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part of me is like why am I telling this to awful
Unknown Speaker 35:49
no no. Like that was a sad life for that monkey I mean yeah, what happened to that lady is awful but like
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the monkey was raised
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like a human and has all these conflicting feelings and know like what's going on and there's no like monkey therapy to like like
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a picture of his dad like
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like Nathan for you so sorry
Unknown Speaker 36:32
man, fuck yeah, this is a big fucked up story in so many ways.
Unknown Speaker 36:37
Yeah, I have a little more about Charla. So her injuries were so bad. That like the officers that were there and the people that worked on her in the hospital. Had to have therapy. I mean, it was like, horrific like her face was gone. She like didn't have anything. Yeah, she liked didn't even really have like some bone structure in her jaw. So it was basically like, damn, they just had to kind of try to like close everything up. Of course, she's blind. Whoa,
Unknown Speaker 37:23
I thought she died. Oh, no, she lived. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, I am pretty sure she's still alive
Unknown Speaker 37:30
today. Oh, okay. Wow.
Unknown Speaker 37:33
So she was in surgery. Like, for hours, hours hours just to stabilize her. They were able to do that. Once she got a little more stable. She did this experimental face transplant surgery. Yeah, pretty crazy. I mean, they go well, or like, I've heard different things. Some people said that it rejected later. But I think she was able to have it for a while. And like, do physical therapy and like, learn to smile and stuff. But yeah, she could never see it again. And she went on Oprah in November of 2009. So like the same year that this happens. Damn. Yeah. And you saw the movie? Nope. Right. Oh, I thought you saw the Jordan Peele one. No. Oh, whoops. I
Unknown Speaker 38:29
haven't seen it yet. Okay. What happens in that movie?
Unknown Speaker 38:34
There's like, sorry. There's an aspect that's kind of similar but there's a character in there just briefly and she's wearing like this hat and veil and that's what Charla look like when she went on Oprah. I borrowed it for that movie. But yeah, and she like, showed her face on Oprah. And it was like a big thing. They also did like experimental hands transplant on her. But I guess she got sick and the hands ended up rejecting. Oh, but pretty crazy. That stuff like that exists.
Unknown Speaker 39:14
Yeah. Um, I am just insanely surprised that she lived through that.
Unknown Speaker 39:21
Yeah, anybody? Like how?
Unknown Speaker 39:26
Yeah, like, alright, you just Just live your life as best as you can. Now we all support you. And you never have to work again. Yeah,
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I mean, she really can't. She of course sued.
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The lady the
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Sandra said dumb bitches name. And she got like some money but it's also kind of like, who cares? Like, yeah, her life
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is completely ruined. Yeah.
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So Sandra ended up dying 15 months after the attack, she had an aneurysm that burst and she just like died instantly. And her attorney like released the statement and was like, she just had a series of heartbreaking losses and it just killed her like, I'm sorry, but I just don't feel bad for this fucking lady. Yeah,
Unknown Speaker 40:24
no, I don't feel bad for either my own. I'm kind of angry that she called her friend over to I know do that instead of like,
Unknown Speaker 40:34
Animal Control, or something.
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Maybe not even a police officer because they might just straight up shoot it. And I guess that's what happened. Yeah, they just
Unknown Speaker 40:43
didn't have a choice like. And they thought that the Charlo was dead. So like, well, he's killed somebody. So we're just gonna take she was alive.
Unknown Speaker 40:55
She was dead too. I mean, like, having your hands and feet in your face torn off.
Unknown Speaker 41:02
Yeah, pretty fucking crazy. But the good news is there's some laws now. Yeah, I didn't write like what the laws were. But basically, yeah, it's harder to have animals like that,
Unknown Speaker 41:24
like primate specific or just like exotic,
Unknown Speaker 41:28
exotic animals in general. It's still not great, though. Like, I looked up the rules in Texas. I feel like you can still have a lot of stuff. You just have to get a permit, which I don't know how hard it is to do that. I don't know if it's a money thing. Like you have to pay, you know, a million dollars. But yeah, there's really not enough laws about this.
Unknown Speaker 41:56
Damn, yeah, that's, um, that's really crazy. And funny enough, I actually have like, the light or I have like the states in which you don't need a license to own an alligator. I know. But like, it was something that had my notes and you're talking about the alligator earlier. So like the law I found was is illegal to raise alligators in your home in Texas, which you already talked about. But um the other states if you are interested, I guess and owning one which not a good idea, but without a single permit or license. You can get one in Alaska, Arkansas, Colorado, Kansas, Michigan, Minnesota, North Carolina, North Dakota, Pennsylvania, West Virginia and Wisconsin. But so many Yeah. And with a license. So I think that was yeah, 11 states and with a license. You can do Delaware, Florida, Idaho, Indiana, Maine, Missouri, Nebraska, New Hampshire, Rhode Island, South Dakota, Texas and Vermont. So Alyssa land started home gage ranch.
Unknown Speaker 43:07
I am floored. Like, I just don't think people are smart enough. Ya know, I really don't
Unknown Speaker 43:17
I don't think it's a good idea either. Unless, like you are part of the Erwin family where it's in your blood.
Unknown Speaker 43:28
Also, it's like are there regulations? You know, you have to have like a certain number of acres or like Could your next door neighbor have a fucking alligator? You know, like, I feel like that's an important part too. Because if it's like in the middle of a town and it gets out you know,
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I did find am this like,
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Texas State
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Parks something pamphlet that has a lot of like laws about alligators. I actually bookmarked it for like future stuff. So yeah, we'll definitely dig into like Texas alligators.
Unknown Speaker 44:10
There's a Brazos Bend park where you can go see alligators been a couple feet from one and it was fucking terrifying. Yeah,
Unknown Speaker 44:19
that sounds really scary. Yeah,
Unknown Speaker 44:21
they lived there. And they're just hanging out. You can rent bikes, and I was like, Yeah, I want to fucking bike to get around in case I need to like, zigzag way away. And there was one point where we did take a little walk. And there was a gigantic fucking alligator like halfway in the sidewalk. And I was like, we're going the other way. And she was like, I mean, I think it's fine. I was like, No, it's not fine. Yeah, no. Yeah, cuz you don't know if the person before you like poked it with a stick
Unknown Speaker 44:57
or something like often it's right To attach I do think they're usually
Unknown Speaker 45:02
pretty chill but yeah I just don't trust other people to not agitate them and yeah yeah
Unknown Speaker 45:11
yeah they were like around in Mississippi to like never saw one just like out like almost like halfway on the street or sidewalk or whatever but um it wasn't uncommon to just like see a sign let's just like hey gators hanging out here so just you know oh wow I didn't realize that there yeah there's a there was a gas station called gators too and I guess that's why they called it that because there's I guess it's more gators kind of in that area and that was my elementary school mascot.
Unknown Speaker 45:39
Oh Gator fun
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so speaking of Texas laws I just have some more is it stupid in a Texas or Mississippi game ever? So I mentioned before Oh, let me give a rundown of the rules I guess for those that don't know. So this I'm just gonna go through some blue laws aka Sunday laws and illicit will try to guess if it's a stupid law from Mississippi or from Texas
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I just want to say these make me so fucking angry that
Unknown Speaker 46:17
yeah, okay, yeah, I don't I don't think many will be anger inducing today. Um, I read the one earlier that was it's illegal to raise alligators in your home. I thought
Unknown Speaker 46:29
these were like the ones about like I'm stupid. I thought they were like the drinking ones like you can only buy alcohol this time and this time Oh,
Unknown Speaker 46:41
um I don't know if those laws have a name but these are the ones that like are just kind of like stupid that nobody really follows gotcha so part of the lawn stuff I was
Unknown Speaker 46:54
thinking it was all was religious based laws that we have
Unknown Speaker 46:58
no
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law I can totally I think that's why it has that name is just because like a lot of those laws are ones that aren't used anymore. I think Texas Gotcha. Okay. I don't know how many states do this but Texas is like one of the places that I've been that's like oh, we won't serve alcohol on Sunday unless food hits the table for some like so flaking.
Unknown Speaker 47:23
Yeah, if you're not from us area, we have all these fucking weird laws like you can only buy liquor at certain times and beer at certain times and their stuff on Sundays and liquor stores aren't allowed to be open on Sundays. And it's so stupid.
Unknown Speaker 47:42
And those are rules that are enforced. Yes. Now. I think liquor stores are open on Sunday but you maybe this is also the same in Texas but you can't buy liquor on the grocery store and stuff so okay, I was thinking Texas to you and it was not a thing in Louisiana. anyway um speaking of liquor, a person found intoxicated must be given a large dose of castor oil by by a local doctor. And failure to go but down will result in a fine I'm gonna say Texas. Yeah. Alamo Texas specifically.
Unknown Speaker 48:25
Oh, okay. Yeah, so you just like shit a lot. I guess
Unknown Speaker 48:29
it just leaves it right.
Unknown Speaker 48:35
And I'm just kind of speaking of I know that this is not
Unknown Speaker 48:41
Elmo, Texas. But um, it is illegal to urinate on the LML
Unknown Speaker 48:47
thanks to Ozzy Osbourne Yes,
Unknown Speaker 48:49
I was just about to say that yeah, I did not know that. But yeah, he peed on the Alamo and was banned from the site so thank you, Ozzy.
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Only Allah Matthew.
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I saw a video we were watching some like old cringy like American Idol or X Factor videos and then I just like heard her talk. I looked over I was like, holy shit. That is Sharon. This is like she looks so young. It was crazy. You may not walk a dog without dressing it and diapers. That feels Texas,
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but I'm gonna go Texas,
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Mississippi, temperance, Mississippi,
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just for modesty sake or
Unknown Speaker 49:43
I have no idea. I'll have to look more into that one. And just see if there's a story behind it because it sounds like an interesting story. Unnatural intercourse if both parties He's voluntary participate results in a maximum sentence of 10 years and $10,000
Unknown Speaker 50:09
Okay, so
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in to read that law a little more I guess it says a every person who shall be convicted of the debt a stable I don't know that word I'm sorry I'm dumb and abominable crime against nature committed with mankind or would they be shall be punished by imprisonment in the penitentiary? penitentiary for a term of not more than 10 years?
Unknown Speaker 50:39
are not putting the dog diaper on? Oh, no, just another one. Oh, this
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is a natural intercourse if both parties voluntarily participate. Oh, what
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is fun, natural inner?
Unknown Speaker 50:50
Um, I don't know. It's not really well defined. Mississippi. Yes. I think what they're trying to get at is like, like BJs reality kind of laws. Um, but it says committed with hand with mankind or with a beast. So I think this is kind of like also an old school thing of like, like, you can't be gay and have some kind of thing. So I wrote like, boom, flip it update. update that bad boy and take out the mankind part and you have yourself a solid antiobesity Flip it. Flip it,
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please. Um, let's see.
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Owners of horses may not ride them at night without taillights. Texas? Yes, Texarkana. Oh, and I put the Arkansas Texas because I don't know what to
Unknown Speaker 51:49
do. One time, I met a really cute cat at a gas station in Texarkana. Oh, okay, so I just think about that cat when I think about, oh, well, if we ever drive food,
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they're all look for
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cute kitties. Yes.
Unknown Speaker 52:07
It was illegal for both sexes to flirt or respond to flirtation using the eyes and or hands. It didn't say the dude.
Unknown Speaker 52:18
Doesn't even make sense. I'm Mississippi, Texas. Oh, okay. Specifically San
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Antonio. But I wouldn't be surprised if it was more.
Unknown Speaker 52:30
Um, yeah. So
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do you flirt with like, flinging your deck around if you can't use your eyes or hands?
Unknown Speaker 52:37
I guess just like helicopter booty. Kick him in the painting.
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Yes, that's why for
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the fine for waving a gun in public is higher than actually shooting it.
Unknown Speaker 52:53
I feel like in Texas, we love guns. I don't know about Mississippi though. But I'm gonna say Mississippi.
Unknown Speaker 53:00
Yeah, let's see. If you got that gun. You were to shoot it. You
Unknown Speaker 53:10
know, one may ride a horse and buggy through the town square. And this was just like an extra wall. To compound that one. You can ride your horse in the saloon.
Unknown Speaker 53:23
Texas. Yeah. Simple Texas. Oh, okay.
Unknown Speaker 53:27
I've been to a wedding lair. Hang on, we'll get your horse and just spread on in. I wonder if people still do that. They're curious. Oh, an old law made it illegal to go to church in disguise
Unknown Speaker 53:47
Hmm. Mississippi, Texas. Oh shit. You can't hide from the lowered
Unknown Speaker 53:56
from Jamie Lynn. That's thick. That mustache
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I'm going oh, I
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was just thinking about how stupid the states were for Mr.
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And then the last one.
Unknown Speaker 54:18
You can be fined up to $100 for using profanity in a public place. Think this is Texas, Mississippi. Oh, okay. But maybe it's also illegal in Texas. I wouldn't be surprised honestly. Yeah.
Unknown Speaker 54:35
Well, shit.
Unknown Speaker 54:38
Yeah, that's this stupid law Roundup. Man. I've never talked about this on the podcast, but I used to live in Bandera which is the Cowboy Capital of the World. Oh. So I'll see if I can find some stuff like that for Bandera because it was a very interesting town like people really do. Uh, like ride horses and there are spots to like, tie up your horse and stuff so you can go into the store so that's cool.
Unknown Speaker 55:07
Yeah, there's some we're the town my high school was at was definitely like that. Like, yeah, there was it was not uncommon to see like people also just like driving their four wheelers down on the road or the side of the road and their tractors and shit. Good Times good times.
Unknown Speaker 55:29
I don't mind it. It's kind of fun. But yeah, it's fun. Yeah,
Unknown Speaker 55:34
I saw this one video of like a I guess it was like an Amish person with their buggy and they were drunk and the cops were trying to pull him over because they wanted to see and then the horses just kept going and then one cop was like, What should we do? He was like don't worry the horses will know where to go oh, well, that'll do it for day. Mouths listen when
Unknown Speaker 55:59
no I think we're gonna get on out of here a little doggies
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up all right, party on fat heads already. Learning Ding ding ding ding ding
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sorry I talked about Jared from Subway for 20 minutes he's fucking buck that guy totally dismiss my mouth trying to drink some water. I hope she has. A dog has retired. I can't wait to meet that dog one day