Join us for part two of the Clavicular cringe saga. We’re mogging all over the podcast with our cringe-maxxxing!
Join us for part two of the Clavicular cringe saga. We’re mogging all over the podcast with our cringe-maxxxing!
References:
Channel 5 interview https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_6mni6k0Zw
Clavicular slapped at club https://www.instagram.com/reels/DWG9y6rocyO/
Clavicular & Whoa Vicky speed date https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzpF_B5vCmY
Clavicular ditches Whoa Vicky after she acts sketchy https://www.tiktok.com/@clipsfye/video/7626610744070638878
Tip Toe Maxxing from Jack Mac interview https://www.tiktok.com/@jackmacbarstool/video/7621320406657420558
Clavicular’s home tweet/x https://x.com/Clavicular0/status/2044362432823411176
Michael Knowles interview https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8qj9RNA938
Speaker 1 0:00
Jamie, I don't remember if we've had this conversation on the podcast before, but are there foods that you kind of consider, like old people foods?
Speaker 2 0:10
Oh, I guess, like liver move.
Speaker 1 0:33
that's the first thing that comes to mind. So I always fuck with my sister, because I feel like she has a very old people palette as far as, like, desserts, like she loves, like, a ginger snap, a fake loot, yes,
Unknown Speaker 0:48
yes, I would consider those as well. Yes, yeah.
Unknown Speaker 0:51
She loves stuff like that.
Speaker 1 0:54
We were at the store getting snacks, and she found peanut brittle. And she was like, peanut brittle, yeah. Like, that is another old people treat. I feel like
Speaker 2 1:06
I Yeah, that sounds very and toffee, yeah.
Speaker 1 1:12
And don't get me wrong, I love peanut brittle, but I do feel like it's kind of like a an old person food, you
Speaker 2 1:19
know, no, yeah, I think it is. I'm trying to think if there's anything else,
Speaker 1 1:27
I feel like buttermilk as well, like my grandma would drink a little cup of buttermilk
Speaker 2 1:36
before bed. I just remember, like I tried buttermilk once because I needed it for a recipe. I was like, oh, maybe taste it long, yeah, not I don't like it.
Speaker 1 1:49
It was so funny. And the we were talking about this with her tattoo artist, and he was like, hell yeah, I love peanut brittle,
Unknown Speaker 2:00
like I do too. But you have to admit, old food.
Unknown Speaker 2:04
Did your grandma heat
Speaker 1 2:05
up the No, she didn't heat up the buttermilk. Oh, man, I wonder if it would curdle. Oh, I do love, like, cottage cheese, though I feel like that's kind of well
Unknown Speaker 2:17
old people too.
Speaker 1 2:18
I feel like it was an old people food, but people like, fucking looks maxing dude, I feel like they're kind of CO opting cottage cheese and making it like protein recipes with it.
Speaker 2 2:33
People kind of do that, yeah, and it's weird, because I did eat peaches and cottage cheese when I was younger, but it just seems like an old coat. Just feels like an old people thing.
Speaker 1 2:44
Yep, and we're old people things here on the nervous laughter podcast. My name is Jamie, and I'm
Speaker 2 2:50
Alyssa, and, yeah, we're talking about lavicular Again, yep. Funny thing, kind of with food, with the so you use milk to make cheese, and I think it has been twice. Clev has, like, gotten really upset. People said cried on stream, but I didn't see actual tears when I watched the video. But like, whenever he's gotten cheese on his burger, because there's cheese on it. Oh, he's just so upset. And it's just also kind of funny, because it's like a, you know, he's unwrapping a fast food wrapper, and he thinks that he would like discourage
Speaker 1 3:33
things, does he do? You think it's because he doesn't like cheese, or because cheese is not conducive to health acts? I think it's that okay. It's not that update on the next episode, which it's funny
Speaker 2 3:45
because it's like, it's a fucking fast food, yeah? Which I don't know i It annoys me when people complain about they're like, oh, this person, like, got a large meal with a diet cold. And I'm like, well, give them kudos for at least putting that sugar out. So I don't mean to be one of those people,
Speaker 1 4:05
um, and Diet Coke has a totally different taste. I like it. You're like, I love the chemicals you
Speaker 2 4:15
you and your nasty crisp apple coffee drink. Yeah, and the fucking the ranch, Oh, God. Or, did you like that? Or, No, I think there was another.
Speaker 1 4:31
Did I like? I did like something that you thought was gross?
Speaker 2 4:36
I can't remember. What do we have two sodas on that one or, or maybe it was the coffee that I'm thinking of. I think
Speaker 1 4:42
we had just won that time, but I feel like we've tried weird shit and I've liked it, so it wouldn't surprise me.
Unknown Speaker 4:51
Yeah, we have a very diverse palette here at podcast.
Speaker 2 4:56
So picking up where we left off with clavicular, which. Was the age of 2025,
Unknown Speaker 5:02
we picked back up in January 2026
Speaker 2 5:06
where there is a collab within like the kick streamer manosphere, including hell, pretty much coming live from hell. And one of those streamers included one of our favorite people. Do you want to guess who?
Speaker 1 5:27
Wow, what month was this one you're talking about? Do you know
Unknown Speaker 5:30
January this year?
Speaker 1 5:32
January? Oh, okay, so it's not Charlie Kirk. He was in heaven already. I don't know if he was involved in any of
Unknown Speaker 5:39
this, but he was there in spirit. He was spirit maxing.
Speaker 1 5:43
God. I almost want to say liver King, because he's probably like a
Speaker 2 5:46
physique maxer. You know, that's a really good guess. But no, but I had also, I tried to find if there was any collapse with them, and they have not collapsed, at least as of yet. Andrew Tate, see, I was
Speaker 1 5:58
like, No, that's too easy. I bet it's somebody more like obscure. Just get along. Hand hold, Max, not in the gay way.
Unknown Speaker 6:12
Oh, yeah, they would, they would like, pee, pee tip.
Speaker 2 6:19
Um, so it was, yeah, Clav Andrew, Tate Tristan, Tate sneako, Myron game and Justin Waller. Sneako is another kick streamer, just degenerate, annoying, okay, just gets in trouble all the time. Generic kind of kick streamer. And if you don't really know what I mean by like kick streamer, people who get banned on Twitch go to stream on kick. So, so is kick kind of an easy way to describe it?
Speaker 1 6:52
Gotcha, is it like a video game thing too, or anybody can just, kind of, anyone
Speaker 2 6:57
can go stream on it, like, same with Twitch too, like you can do like IRL streams or or anything like that. But like it really started, started as gaming and then grew into like everything else. But yeah, kick is where all the degenerate, shitty, asshole people
Unknown Speaker 7:12
like the truth, social of
Speaker 2 7:14
streaming, you know, I guess you could kind of say, Yeah, because I could probably guarantee that's where a majority of, like the conservative like political streamers are at and, you know, things like that. So, so yeah, they all decided to collab together, and they went partying at a nightclub, Vendome.
Unknown Speaker 7:38
Oh, my God, where a
Unknown Speaker 7:41
well circulated clip
Speaker 2 7:45
was taken. They were all singing along to the Hale Hitler song by Kanye West.
Speaker 1 7:53
Okay, back when I said about this fucking little
Unknown Speaker 7:59
bitch asshole, I did
Speaker 1 8:01
call it that he was Hitler maxing or Nazi maxing,
Unknown Speaker 8:04
yeah, yeah. So he's pretty much Nazi maxing.
Speaker 2 8:11
He and then he even said, like, oh, we had enough cloak to get it played. So that's like, really, extra shitty. So again, we're still saying, fuck this guy I know in the last episode, you know, there's like, oh, you can see a little peak here and there, and little bits of you, tiny bits, feel kind of bad for him, but still absolutely Fuck him. That is our take. Yeah. That is not cool. And I mean, hopefully,
Speaker 1 8:41
like you said last episode, he's still young enough to where maybe he'll, like, wake up one day and hopefully be very deeply ashamed of that. Yeah. Thoughts are not looking good.
Speaker 2 8:51
Yeah. Hopefully it's like, when you see him being interviewed and he's like, hearing himself say some of these things out loud with people that aren't there, like, yes anding him, oh yeah. It's like, I don't know if he's just, I don't know. It just seems like he's parts of his brain are starting to break a little bit. It's, it kind of seems like I don't know if it's the math or or what, but yeah, so he's pretty fucked up and but still, from there on, he's like, um, he's like, Oh no. Like, I'm not political. I'm apolitical. I don't do any of these, like, politics and, like, that was just a funny thing. And blah, blah, blah, which, like, I don't know, like, maybe that's funny if you're like, 10, maybe when you're 10, but I know, you know, like, edgy
Unknown Speaker 9:41
middle schoolers. If this was like, 2005
Speaker 1 9:43
or something, that would be like, yeah, internet humor, like bullshit,
Speaker 2 9:49
edgy children, yeah, things like that, but um, yeah, do it this day and age that's extremely like, no, especially with all the other shit going on and. Just, just people, rage baiting and stuff. And it works.
Unknown Speaker 10:05
It's, it's so stupid,
Speaker 2 10:08
um, but yeah, again, to kind of go back with, like the kind of Nazi Mac thing, like you're talking about, um,
Unknown Speaker 10:19
he and I didn't find this video,
Speaker 2 10:23
but he previously stated in a video with Fuentes Nick Fuentes, that he based his social media strategy on Fuentes approach and advocated for, quote, saving European culture, unquote, who looks maxing in anabolic steroids, which, again, like we mentioned before, it's kind of funny, because all the stuff he's promoting has made him infertile, will make all of them infertile, and women will rule the world eventually.
Speaker 1 10:51
I wish I could beat the fucking shit out of Nick Fuentes.
Speaker 2 10:55
Yeah, there's also, I, again, I don't have the video of this one. I feel like I've just, I'll see a clip somewhere, and I just can't fucking find it. Yeah, but there was one guy that I don't know if flap put out, like an open call for people to come find him, or if it was like this one guy specifically, but yeah, there's this, like, liberal dude that they were gonna, like, fight at this, you know, fighting gym, or whatever. MMA, and the guy just, like, has him on the headlock, fucking like, dragging him around and making it look fucking easy. And he's like, he's just like, Oh, I've been wanting to do this so good to just see him, to see a collab struggle. Like, I
Speaker 1 11:38
felt like I could take Nick Fuentes. He's small, yeah, I could probably,
Speaker 2 11:45
I don't want to say I have gotten weak over the past couple years, because I have been
Speaker 1 11:51
all the rage that you feel. Though I feel like that, yeah, that could overpower
Speaker 2 11:55
it, yeah. Like a mother's like, yeah. Like, mothers, yeah. It's
Unknown Speaker 12:03
nothing like a woman's love or rage.
Speaker 2 12:08
But yeah, I've been like, really, couch maxing lately. So like, hey,
Unknown Speaker 12:13
something wrong with it?
Speaker 2 12:17
So yeah, these are really, you know, bad people again. I most of them are super young, so I really hope that they
Unknown Speaker 12:27
flip it around.
Unknown Speaker 12:28
Educate. Max, yeah, educate.
Speaker 2 12:33
So class, mainstream exposure continues through, you know, different mentions and articles and the Rolling Stone the Atlantic guardian, New York Times, which noted that he was also earning more than Do you want to guess how much he was earning on kick a month?
Speaker 1 12:52
It's probably like 30 to 50,000 100,000 Oh, my God, awful. Yeah, my brain can't wrap around things anymore. Yeah, that wasn't real.
Speaker 2 13:05
So it's like, you have this person doing bad things, and he's being reinforced with money. So it's like a hard cycle for him to break. I'm not trying to, like, make excuses for him or anything like that, but
Speaker 1 13:19
like he's he's getting rewarded. He's getting rewarded for bad behavior.
Unknown Speaker 13:23
And like, that's
Unknown Speaker 13:25
the theme of the world. Now, I
Speaker 2 13:26
did see like, a comment, and I'm not gonna say like all of it, because hopefully we'll circle back to it later, but someone you know, was like, oh, you should be more like yourself or whatever. And he was like, Oh, well, I could, but I'm streamer, so I can't, and it's just like, you he's done, like a sunken cost fallacy thing. He's like, I'm too far in now, this is just my fucking life. This is what I have to do to live. I mean, obviously he agrees with the stuff, because he's just going along with it the my brain just like breaks just being like these fucking people are real.
Speaker 2 14:10
And we move to February 12, 2026 where, again, being encouraged for being a shitty person. He walks and closes out the Fashion Week 2026 runway show by designer Elena valise in New York City. It was a whoops Maxine themed show in collaboration with romilia Corporation. And I looked into the designer a little bit Elena valise. I just did, like, minimal. Oh, I was looking into so much other stuff, but it seems like she's basically just does rage bait runway to get people talking about her shit. So this was very intentional by her. At first, I was like, oh. Like he's a sucked up example of like what looks maxing like has become so is this going to be like one of those art shows that kind of, like makes a statement? Yeah, but no, it was just a rage bait. So Monica sabak, at the spectator calls his appearance, quote, evidence that the algorithm has stepped onto the runway. Unquote, he honestly seems to fit in with model culture, though, you know, disorders using the drugs to lose weight, just all that crazy stuff. But, yeah, so, like I mentioned that designer is kind of known for rage baiting. She's used controversial internet figures as models in the past, um, but yeah, this definitely had a big, had to be a big boost for his ego, like, for sure.
Unknown Speaker 16:02
I'm just mogging on this runway bitch.
Speaker 1 16:04
Oh, may I ask? What the fuck is mogging?
Speaker 2 16:10
Let me see if I have a definition.
Speaker 1 16:16
I feel very Hashtag blessed that I don't know that. Let me, um, let me
Speaker 2 16:21
see if I can find a video of him explaining it real quick. I can't believe I didn't have that
Speaker 1 16:29
in here. Man, there's so many definitions.
Speaker 2 16:33
So I couldn't find, like, a clip on him describing what mogging is. But I'm pretty sure there's like, a billion out there. I just couldn't find one in our time trying to search just now. But mogging is basically like you're doing it better than everyone else.
Speaker 1 16:51
Laughter. Podcast, Mogs on all the other podcast.
Speaker 2 16:54
Mog I don't know if it just pertains to looks maxing. I think whenever he uses it, you can kind of assume it is because, you know, he'll mog unless it's like, specifies otherwise, because there's the term frame the mogging is used a lot, which is just like your physical frame. So if someone's like, more lean than him, their frame, mogging,
Unknown Speaker 17:17
stuff like that.
Speaker 1 17:18
I like that. Mogging kind of seems like you're like, a threat to someone. You know, you're like, I'm fucking mogging you, bro, me mogging You, man, yeah. Like, oh, you're just so fucking cut hot, like, mogging me.
Speaker 2 17:33
You're mogging all over the place. Oh, you're mogging the room up, man, oh, yeah. And it's funny because there was recently a interview done by 60 Minutes Australia. And everyone was joking that they sent their hottest reporter to Magana. Oh my gosh, it's so funny. So February 27 he's streaming in Old Town, Scottsdale, him and his crew were just, you know, walking around. They go to this bar where there's actually police working with the bar security that night. So he gets escorted out, and they arrest him around 11pm which is live streamed. The whole arrest is live streamed on him. They found a forged ID claiming he's over 21 because, remember, he's 20 at the time, or currently, uh, one Adderall and one anavar, which is an anabolic steroid.
Unknown Speaker 18:35
Hell yeah, felony maxing.
Speaker 2 18:38
And yes, he is felony maxing, because he was charged with two class felony, class four felonies, one for forgery, possession of a forged instrument, which, as I'm assuming, is the ID saying he's over 21 and dangerous drug possession, which
Unknown Speaker 19:00
I don't know if that was the Adderall or anapar, or
Speaker 1 19:04
maybe the donation, yeah, combination makes you like a super douche,
Speaker 2 19:09
as evident by him. Maybe he also had meth on him, and they just didn't mention it in the articles, or something. Yeah, he meth maxes, so I don't know. Plus one misdemeanor for underage bar entry, a bond was set at $25,000
Unknown Speaker 19:29
and the arrest happened
Speaker 2 19:32
or sorry. So not only was the arrest live stream, but the next day, a friend of his strings his initial court hearing on kick. My God,
Unknown Speaker 19:42
it's like, Your Honor. I just,
Speaker 2 19:47
I just had math, that was all, and I don't know it's just kind of like, DIY, Court TV, hell yeah, the judge finds probable cause on all three charges. And. Releases him on his own recognizance, but the county attorney dropped all charges on February 11. What? Why? Quote, no reasonable likelihood of conviction, which I don't know. What that worked harder.
Unknown Speaker 20:15
Like this is pretty hard.
Speaker 2 20:17
The judge found probable cause. I don't know it was all streamed
Speaker 1 20:23
corruption Max thing is, what this is, yeah, pissing me off.
Speaker 2 20:30
And this was a funny quote from The New York Times. They said, clavicular has freedom. Mogged in the Scottsdale. PD, I so still in February. I'm not sure what part of February this is. They're in an Airbnb near Orlando, Florida, in class girlfriend, which is still violet at the time. Finally, Violet. Let's have a little sidebar.
Speaker 1 21:02
Let's Yeah, like you need to dump him. You need to write a book about your experience. Need to get rich, and I'm gonna say you need to give back to the community for the damage that you have helped cause, Violet, but then after that, just have a good life. Yeah, get away from the public eye. Don't do a Gypsy Rose, yeah? Oh, God, no.
Speaker 2 21:23
Oh, god. Did you see that video of gypsy like and that other fucking, oh, the shitty chick streamer, yeah, doing the like fake paparazzi, and it's like the other chick less obvious that it's fake paparazzi, but gypsy like made it so fucking obvious. Oh my god, so cringy to watch.
Speaker 1 21:50
She did some looks maxing because she got like, a nose job and stuff. Oh yeah, yeah. She has looks Max Yeah. And I think, like, ozempic or something too. And, yeah,
Speaker 2 21:59
I wouldn't doubt it. Yeah, I wouldn't doubt if she's like, getting more done or already has got more done. Yeah. I haven't felt like looked at anything with her in a while. Just like, I want to live my best life away from you.
Unknown Speaker 22:13
My best life's away from you.
Unknown Speaker 22:15
Gypsy. Oh, you do it so good.
Speaker 1 22:20
That's what I do, and I'm sitting by myself
Speaker 2 22:24
like for some reason, I imagined it like sitting by myself in a sink with my
Unknown Speaker 22:31
head shaved. Mommy, give me a bear.
Speaker 2 22:37
Oh, but yeah, Violet, get away from this guy, you know, do some self improvement. Maxing, yes, and then just emotionally mog all over him. And I don't know any other slang to throw in there right now.
Speaker 1 22:56
Therapy Max, for sure, yeah, you're really gonna need the therapy Max, yeah, self reflect.
Speaker 2 23:03
Max, yes, get your life together. Max, you'll probably need some drug rehab. Maxing, since your boyfriend shoots you with meth,
Unknown Speaker 23:12
yeah, there's mess in your face.
Unknown Speaker 23:15
It's pretty awful. We're sorry violet,
Speaker 2 23:20
and she's been dating him since she was at least 17. So she's got, oh no, you know, she's little the she's a little undeveloped in the brain, developing with having that help develop it. And it's, yeah, that's pretty scary, yikes. Um, but she gets into an altercation with another woman. I think she was a this woman was another streamer. So this gets live streamed, and it also gets posted to social media like Clav is recording it. But yeah, they basically, Clav kind of antagonize this whole thing interrogated. It basically had the other streamer come over with intentions of having his girlfriend fight her. So it's, you know, they're white trash maxing. I feel like everything I'm talking about is just like, no different than, like, trashy people in the South. They just have more money.
Speaker 1 24:24
Yeah, it's that, and they're just Gen Z or whatever the fuck
Unknown Speaker 24:29
you know. I never thought that they could.
Speaker 2 24:30
What is that word? It starts with a G for white people, like fucking everything up. Ginger, gentrification, yes, gentrification of white trash, yeah, oh, they have, oh, wow, funny, yeah, you're so right. I don't know if this was part of the recording that cut off, but yeah, we're talking about, like, meth. He probably gets it from like, his. Yoga studio.
Speaker 1 25:00
Like, yeah, oh, maybe he gets it from, like, the fucking Q anon Shaman. Oh, yeah. I think he was in jail for a while, but I think he got out, didn't and, yeah, all the pardon January Sixers got to, like, go out and do sex crimes. And yeah, it's cool. Gotta have
Unknown Speaker 25:23
another Hurrah.
Speaker 2 25:24
Yeah, only Americans can do crime here. Yeah. So with this fight at the Airbnb, there were warrants issued against violet for battery, and also against clab for battery and criminal conspiracy to commit battery.
Speaker 1 25:47
Oh, shit, I bet that's a fairly serious charge. I'm glad. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2 25:53
um, so yeah. After the sheriff's office investigation, they determined that Clav did instigate the fight, but also they said that, you know, posting it on social media and stuff was exploitative of the women, which, yes, it was. It's like, Wow, very surprising. Triggered this fight, and then you did that. So wow, yeah, that was, um, kind of,
Unknown Speaker 26:18
dare I say it cool of the police officers.
Unknown Speaker 26:27
And then we'll move into March 2026,
Speaker 2 26:32
on the 10th clab shares announcement for the mog World Order, which is a 30 day 24/7 stream.
Unknown Speaker 26:46
He's gonna need extra mess from the fucking qanon shot.
Speaker 2 26:49
I know, like doing 30 days 24/7 like, yeah. I mean, I mean, yeah, he's gotta be messed up a lot.
Speaker 1 26:57
Yeah. It has to show him sleeping. Sometimes I would think, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 27:02
I mean, I assume he, like, there's a lot of streamers that do, like, 24/7 streams or longer, and they'll show themselves sleeping. So I assume he does the same thing. But I assume there's probably a few, quite a few, like, all nighter, whatever things in there. He has also said that he does cocaine. He was like, Well, you know, I'm a streamer, and, you know, we have to keep up the energy and stuff. So again, it's more of like, the way I do it is okay, because it helps me with x, y and z, but when other people do it, they're messing up their life.
Speaker 1 27:33
Wow, man, being on a 24 hour stream sounds like my worst fucking nightmare. Like to be observed for that long? Yeah, no way.
Speaker 2 27:44
And people are usually, yeah, super fucking tired by the end of it. People will even do like, 48 hour streams and stuff like that. There was one guy that died doing one. I don't know if it was a 48 or 2448 longer, whatever, but yeah, he, he died from that. I don't know if it was due to exhaustion or caffeine consumption or what I don't really recall, but yeah, that just gets dangerous. When I was younger, I would just, there's a thing called extra life, and it's just like, if you do a 24 hour gaming thing, then you could, you would raise, you know, raise money for whatever. So it's kind of like a marathon. You you raise the money, and then you do the thing. So, yeah, I did that. I didn't stream it or anything, because I didn't have any of that. But like, Oh my God, just staying up and, like, trying to just game for 24 hours is so fucking harsh. Like, it sounds like, oh, it's easy because you're playing games. But it's like, bro, it's
Speaker 1 28:44
just, I mean, just sitting in a chair for that long is
Unknown Speaker 28:50
so uncomfortable, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2 28:53
it's, it's a lot so, so, yeah, I don't particularly recommend doing doing that. But, you know, sometimes I feel like the majority of the time it's people raising money for a good cause, or, like, in this case, a subathon, where you're just trying to get a bunch of subs for your stuff. Which nothing wrong with that, either. So yeah, this started around the 12th or 13th of March. He rented out a huge penthouse in downtown Miami for this, it was, like, insanely huge. He said that he didn't even need, like, any of the closet space really well, um, but I think maybe his crew was staying there, I assume, um, but there wasn't other streamers, like a typical, like, content house, where there's 10 people there making content. It was just him. I assume they had, like a shit ton of parties there that they streamed. I know that they did interviews there and other things through this whole 30 day stream. So there was a lot going on in that house. His announcement for the mag war. Order closed with quote when it comes to extension, if you are not looks maxing, you are not life maxing. And if you are not life maxing, you are nothing. The way is over. Mock world order begins. 30 days, 24/7, live on kick. Welcome to the new era. You which, again, sounds kind of culty Alyssa language. And he's like, it's a new era. So, um, so yeah, I'll go through kind of a little rundown of the highlights from this,
Speaker 1 30:40
I can only imagine what you're about. I'm sure it's so unhinged, yeah, I hope it's
Speaker 2 30:47
not a letdown. And I didn't. I don't have a definition for life maxing, but I think we can kind of assume a lot of the maxing stuff now. So day six, march 18, he does an interview with Channel Five at the penthouse, his penthouse, which is definitely worth watching. I don't have any clips from that, but, man, it's so good. Because like, um, there. I guess the like, most popular part of this interview was towards the end, because Andrew is talking to him about, like, you know, just, just different looks, maxing stuff. But he doesn't know all the terminology, you know, things like that or whatever. I think they had gotten on to, like, politics a little bit, but, and then, yeah, class just like, well, I don't want to get into politics. Like, I'm not political. And like, Oh, you haven't even asked me one looks maxing question yet. And Andrew's like, we've only been talking about looks maxing this whole time. Like, for an hour, I've asked many questions about it. And he's like, No, you haven't. And he's like, okay, so what do you want me to ask? Like, can you give me? Like, what are things I should ask? I don't I don't know enough about the world. Then claps says something along the lines of, well, have you ever woken up with like, tired eyes, you know, like bags under your eyes, like, you know, you can ask me how to get rid of those. And Andrew goes, Okay, so what about that? And then he just gets all like mad and upset, and he's like, Well, he's no, no real quick.
Unknown Speaker 32:24
Did his emo maxing about Yeah?
Speaker 2 32:27
So he just starts, like, being a defensive baby about everything, and then, um, eventually, Clav asks. He's just like, and I don't have the clip to show you, but maybe I'll try to clip it in here.
Speaker 3 32:40
Yeah, not, not a single attempt at anything in regards to looks Max okay, what's the question I should ask? Well, that's up to you. What am I going to tell you? How to do your job? You tell me you want me to ask you about specific scientific questions about different looks, maxing methods. Well, I mean, just, you're not happy with the question about the peptides or the bone smashing or anything like that. I mean, like, can you not identify, like, anything that you have a curiosity about? Like, maybe, you know, you work wake up with with dark circles in your eyes one morning, and, like, you know, even something like that. I mean, just like, even if you don't give a shit, I mean, like, it would be at least, you know, you put a little bit of effort into, I think I've done a pretty good interview from what, like context, because if it's from the context of what you guys reached out was your intention, then I would say that you've done a pretty shitty job. All right. Well, I think people probably want to learn about you, and that was what I was trying to give you the opportunity to do. I know, I think that's, that's totally fair, and that's, I applaud you for that, but not one you know question about about looks maxing. There's been so many questions about looks maxing. I probably asked you about looks maxing, like, 40 times. I just don't know the specific science. I'm not in the community, okay. Well, I mean, like, if you were to ask about, like, something in regards to hair loss, like, there's really nothing, yeah, sure, hair loss, you're trying to get me what to ask. And so when you wake up every single morning and you take a look in the mirror, you're 100% satisfied with every single thing. Is that what you're talking about? Yeah, more or less.
Unknown Speaker 34:15
Okay, dude, all right. Well,
Speaker 3 34:20
I guess that's just, if you want to be completely disingenuous, that's fine with me. I guess there's just no, no point to continue. All right. Thank you for your time. Thank you.
Unknown Speaker 34:33
Thanks guys. No worries.
Unknown Speaker 34:39
Yeah, no, everything's fine. We're all good.
Speaker 1 34:42
Yeah. Oh, wow, did he, like, insult Andrew, any like, well, you need to do this, and you need to do that, or anything like that. I would say kind of like indirect,
Speaker 2 34:54
I can't remember, like, what kind of like specific things he said, but it was just kind of. Like, you know, he'd be like, Okay, well, you know, hair, blah, blah, blah, and, um, with other interviewers, he's, he's like, uh, people ask him to rate him, to rate them all the time. And so I would never, yeah, one interviewer, the conservative guy that we talked about, Oh, whatever. Knowles, he was like, I'm sure you ask this all the time. You don't have to if you don't want to, but, uh, what would you rate me? How cute Do you think I am? Tell me one man to another. How cute am I?
Unknown Speaker 35:31
It's so funny. They do, like,
Speaker 2 35:36
the gayest shit, and they're so angry about like, gay shit. Yeah, they're fucking doing it, and they don't realize it so weird.
Speaker 1 35:45
And you're like, thoroughly examining and studying other men's bodies fucking time, like, like, just
Unknown Speaker 35:56
say you're gay. It's okay, yeah?
Speaker 1 35:59
Like, how is it? How is this less weird?
Speaker 2 36:02
Yeah, but then it's funny, because, like, I, you know, asked him to rate him, and then class like, oh, you know, so many people asked me to do that. I don't like doing that. Like, I don't want to do that surprised. And then the interviewer is like, I mean, that was kind of worse than giving me a rating. Oh, yeah, just being like, I don't want to read so, yeah, it's just, that's just kind of a funny part of it, too. But um, so back to like, the Channel Five interview. It's funny because, you know, he's like, the interview is over, but they're interviewing at clouds, big pinch house that they're using for the Mong world order, and they're interviewing, like, right in front of his stream setup. So he just, like, stands up, taking his microphone off, and then just turns around and sits in the other chair and sits down in his monitor. And it's just like, he just goes right into the stream, yeah, like, but it's so weird and uncomfortable, because, you know, you can feel like the tension, but he's live streaming everything right now, so he's trying to, like, kind of act like it didn't affect him, kind of play it off. And he's like, yeah, I totally mogged him. And it's just like, dude,
Unknown Speaker 37:11
Andrew's sitting there, like,
Speaker 2 37:13
Um, sure, buddy pats him on the shoulder. Oh my god. But yeah, no, so I, I feel like he totally embarrassed himself. I think his chat would HIGHLY disagree with that, but I can only imagine the type of people that watch him in a serious way. Yeah, um, on day seven, March, 19, I think you'll really like this one. Uh, a woman slaps him at a nightclub after arguing about their feet. Oh, my
Unknown Speaker 37:44
God, she's so lucky.
Speaker 2 37:47
I think it was regarding, like, women's right to vote.
Speaker 1 37:51
It's Yeah, and he's not political. Fuck you, yeah, yeah. But you're
Speaker 2 37:55
gonna argue with someone about in a club, yeah? So he's, it's like he really tries to put on a front in his interviews. And I know I've said like, oh, you can see cracks of humanity come through him and stuff. I don't think that's part of the facade he's putting on in interviews. You know, he puts on a facade trying to act like he doesn't do anything wrong. But there's also, I think, unintentional little cracks in there of him realizing something once he said it out loud. But he, you know, he's also he has to stick with what he says, because he's that kind of guy, but also getting upset defensive, you can tell as well. But he, you know, thinks he's playing it off. Oh my god, but yeah, here's a video of that woman you
Unknown Speaker 38:44
get to see the slap.
Speaker 2 38:46
Yeah, I haven't seen a video of, like, what happens leading up to the slap, but you know, she you can kind of hear her yell a little something. It's at a nightclub, so you can't really hear some of it, but then that kind of, like, ends out with the rest. But it's weird because it's like, she slaps them and she's like, Oh, nice. It's nice to meet you, though, but fuck you. So I don't know. I'm confused. It might be like, hey, that's that crazy guy online. Cool to see him.
Speaker 1 39:11
It's that Florida mess that has her all confused. Yeah.
Unknown Speaker 39:42
I call the police.
Speaker 1 40:11
Go, okay. So I feel like she was very under the influence of something, like she has a look in her eyes that I'm like, uh,
Speaker 2 40:20
yeah, I think it's safe to assume a lot of women that club probably are on something. I love
Unknown Speaker 40:27
the song that's playing in the background,
Speaker 2 40:33
but yeah, it's just a weird situation because, yeah, they're beefing. She slaps them. Then she's like, Oh, it's nice to meet you, though, but fuck you, it's nice to meet you. And then he's like, call the police, which, yeah, someone slaps you. Call them police. But also, if you're like, I'm a manly son, some someone when they slap you,
Speaker 1 40:54
come on. And he fucking slaps himself with hammers, you would think he would be like, Hey, thank you, ma'am. Oh, yeah, thank you. My Jaws stronger
Speaker 2 41:02
now you helped me Max. Like, yeah, what? Your weak ass jaw can't handle that.
Speaker 1 41:07
Like, use logic, clavicular,
Speaker 2 41:11
yeah, and I don't know this might be my notes later, so it might get repetitive later, but he is getting a jaw surgery. It's like he's saying that it's more to, you know, it's just more looks maxing. So he's gonna get like a double jaw, something, whatever, plastic surgery. Um, he's gonna look like handsome Squidward. Oh god. He's gonna look like those fucking those twins that have a shit ton of plastic surgery probably look like that by 30. Let me look let me look them up. They were like, actors, oh, Igor and richka Bog and off
Unknown Speaker 41:54
these guys. Oh,
Unknown Speaker 41:58
that's like from the 80s, right?
Speaker 2 42:01
I think they were, like, popular in the 80s, like them now, like, Okay, God look. Oh, they're just so fucking, like, scary. Oh my
Unknown Speaker 42:10
gosh, that's terrifying, but it's kind
Speaker 2 42:13
of, I don't wanna say, like, it's a popular look, but I've seen, like,
Unknown Speaker 42:16
Mar a Lago face, kind of, yes, yes.
Speaker 2 42:18
That's what I've kind of, like, read about a little bit. And so if he's gonna start doing plastic surgery at 20, um, I just assume he's gonna be looking pretty, pretty crazy by like 30. But part of me was also wondering if his bone smashing didn't work, like he was saying, where it makes it stronger, he may have, like, fucked up his whole jaw.
Unknown Speaker 42:49
It's like, crumbling and yeah,
Unknown Speaker 42:50
and he could just be covering it up.
Speaker 2 42:55
Oh, I'm just looks maxing even more, instead of just being like, Hey, I fucked my jaw up, and I have to get, I have to get the whole thing fixed. So I don't know. Obviously I don't I don't know if that's true, but that was just a little speculation of mine. Thought it was a little odd that he spent so much time bone smashing and encouraging others to do it, and then he's going to get jaw double surgery. I'm sorry, double chin surgery. I think it was called whatever it's on his face on day 12 or 13, so March 24 25th clab goes on a little speed dating show. No who shows up? None other than whoa Vicky.
Unknown Speaker 43:43
I don't know who that is.
Speaker 2 43:45
Hey, whoa, Vicky is okay. Sorry, guys. I'm just like, so excited because, like, internet drama, I don't know, like all of it, but I am kind of, I'm kind of cooked in that way. I love streamer, YouTuber, whatever drama, just I can't, I can't, I can't stop.
Speaker 1 44:06
I get it like, I want to hear about, like, how someone hates their fucking co worker, even if I don't know the co worker. Yeah, I just love to hear it. I guess
Speaker 2 44:16
I never got into like, celebrity gossip. Like streamers and YouTubers are more in between, yeah? Like, oh, it's, it's just more of a kind of normal person's drama, yeah, but, yeah. So Whoa, Vicki, I don't know when she started going popular, or I don't know when she started getting popular on the
Unknown Speaker 44:39
internet, popularity maxing, if you will. Yes, yes.
Speaker 2 44:44
She was kind of stupid maxing, though, because she was like, I'm really black, but she's not black. She's just like a white girl, okay. I don't recall if she did any stuff like trying to change her skin tone, like that.
Speaker 1 44:58
Rachel doles, all maxing. I. We'll do what Rachel dole is all maxing the lady that, like, claimed to be black, but she just, like, had curly hair.
Speaker 2 45:07
I honestly forgot about her. Yeah, there's, have you ever seen the guy that was, like, doing that
Unknown Speaker 45:13
stuff that sounds familiar?
Speaker 2 45:14
Yeah, we'll have to cover him one day too, because it's, it's crazy. But yeah, he's, he was doing all kinds of, like, injections and stuff to, like, darken his skin, and he looks so terrible. And he's it was crazy because he insulted, like everyone else that wanted to do the same thing he was doing. He was like, No, you guys aren't really black, but I'm actually black, so it's okay for me to do it. But, yeah, so Whoa, Vicky, that's how she got popular. You know, went viral on the internet. She's just like a rage baby trolley kind of person. I hadn't heard like, really about her much since then, until earlier this year. I think it was she, like, claimed to be kidnapped or whatever. I don't know if she, like, actually was or not, because part of me is like, I could see her being, like, falling in with the wrong crowd and being like, sex trafficked or something.
Unknown Speaker 46:11
Oh, my God.
Speaker 2 46:13
But you know, she's like, oh, there's nothing wrong and blah, blah, blah, everything's fine. I'm just trolling. She's like, I don't drink and stuff. But I this is how I have fun. Is control people on the internet. Um, so yeah, that's just kind of like a rundown on her and watching, God, watching her in covicular Have a conversation. Just, you just want to fucking shoot yourself in the head. And I don't know if she's on drugs are just so mentally unstable. Oh my god. Like, when she talks like I don't know, she'll she looks every, every fucking where else. She looks everywhere. Oh my It's just it comes off a little tweaker ish, yeah, if she's not tweaking and has something wrong, I'm sorry. But yeah, it just, that's just kind of how it comes off. Um, so yeah, here's, um, I think the first part, it's a short date. It's a speed dating thing. But the first part of it and the last part, I think, are worth, uh, clipping and showing you guys. So here's, here's that
Speaker 4 47:18
I got to take a step back for a second, because I was just talking to a bunch of hoes. So I don't wanna, I don't wanna be mean, that's
Unknown Speaker 47:24
respect, yeah, you know, I'm saying,
Unknown Speaker 47:26
but No, woman is a hoe.
Unknown Speaker 47:29
Well, go talk to them after this.
Unknown Speaker 47:33
Yeah, you know, you don't
Speaker 5 47:35
think so. I don't know. I don't wanna disrespect any buddy out their name.
Speaker 4 47:40
Well, I mean, like, here's the thing they they own it. Are you taking a selfie while we're on a date? Vicki, usually it's a respectful thing to be off your phone while you're on a date. No more phones. Can you out? What's the longest you've been without your phone?
Speaker 5 47:57
Sometimes I let it die. On purpose. I went like two days without it, two days recently. Yeah, what do you do?
Unknown Speaker 48:04
Use the other people's phones?
Speaker 4 48:22
Oh, that would go be that was, I did see where it going viral, yeah?
Unknown Speaker 48:29
Well, there's another one right there
Unknown Speaker 48:30
that was fucking
Unknown Speaker 48:32
looks maxing, yeah, you think I'm looks
Speaker 4 48:34
maxing, I think your looks maxing, yeah, thank you. Good too.
Unknown Speaker 48:38
Looks like your tats are almost gone.
Unknown Speaker 48:39
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I need to go back.
Speaker 4 48:41
I mean, they're, I mean, just from not long ago, they're, they're pretty good. Have you had another session since we saw each other?
Unknown Speaker 48:49
No, I haven't, but I need to, oh,
Unknown Speaker 48:51
don't worry about it. You still look good.
Unknown Speaker 48:53
Appreciate you too. You too.
Unknown Speaker 48:55
So what you've been up to since I
Speaker 5 48:56
last saw you? I just been chilling and seeing your clips go viral. Our clips, technically.
Unknown Speaker 49:02
And then I seen with Selena Powell,
Speaker 5 49:05
what about the bar thing? You still be doing that bars?
Unknown Speaker 49:09
Yeah, I ain't done bars in a while. I just been doing like,
Speaker 4 49:13
you know, well, really nothing. Can't do any part of my bond condition. So your bond
Unknown Speaker 49:18
condition, yeah. What does that mean?
Unknown Speaker 49:21
Like, I can't drink or anything,
Unknown Speaker 49:22
so I'm just That's good. I don't either
Unknown Speaker 49:24
staying off the bars, you know,
Unknown Speaker 49:27
just staying on the peptides.
Unknown Speaker 49:30
Yeah, hypothetic. Remember last time you almost got so mad at me
Unknown Speaker 49:35
for what you don't remember?
Unknown Speaker 49:37
No, oh, well, let's forget about it.
Speaker 4 49:39
Then, all right, yeah, let's forget about it, yeah? Oh, because I thought you were doing that or something, yeah, yeah, I got a little paranoid when I'm on trend, yeah, you know, you ever hear that trend, trend, steroid. Oh, for real, yeah. It makes you go pretty fucking crazy. That's the thing you shot in your butt. No, that was, that was NAD, okay. Okay, I didn't do trend in front of you. Okay, that's that idea. Is basically just something I give you a little bit of energy recharge. You. You know, are you on it right now? Trend, yeah, I ain't been in a little while. Oh, yeah, lie to you.
Unknown Speaker 50:13
You look nice. Thank you. I look cute.
Unknown Speaker 50:16
I do think you look cute.
Unknown Speaker 50:17
Area, yeah, you look handsome.
Speaker 4 50:19
I was too nervous to tell you I'm not on I'm not on any pregab. So what does that mean? Means I I'm
Speaker 5 50:27
high in hip right now. Looks maxing. Yeah, period. All right.
Unknown Speaker 50:31
Well, it's good to see you. Vicky, you too. God bless you.
Unknown Speaker 50:33
All right, we'll set up a date soon.
Unknown Speaker 50:35
All right, Ben, we're at soon. Ah, that.
Speaker 2 50:47
So, yeah, that's what, uh, that's what dating looks like for the younger generation,
Unknown Speaker 50:54
I guess, oh, my God.
Speaker 1 50:59
Like they're talking and I'm like, I don't even know what the fuck they're saying half the time. Like, what are these words that you're like? And not even necessarily, because I don't know the vocabulary, but they're just saying it in weird ways, especially her, yeah, what?
Speaker 2 51:17
It's like, the conversation doesn't feel it feels weird, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 51:22
It feels like they're both talking, but not each other, yeah? Just like intersex, almost like they're
Unknown Speaker 51:29
both on drugs. Yeah?
Speaker 2 51:31
Definitely. I do give, I don't like well Vicki, but I do give her kudos for being like, Yeah, I'm not gonna just call them hoes because I don't know them. Hell, yeah, so that was cool, but yeah, that conversation they do on a date later. And I just like, I was like, Oh, cool. I'll watch this too, see if there's anything. And I just like, I could, I could not. It's just like watching two middle schoolers talk about life
Speaker 1 52:06
like, I don't like I'm gonna go sit in a dark, quiet room by myself for a while.
Speaker 2 52:12
Yeah, and it's funny because there is, there's another clip, and I think they met before this speed date, but I couldn't find like clips of it, so I don't really know what their whole time. Whole timeline is, but it's funny because there is a clip where they're asking her about cheating, and she was like, well, there's nothing in the Bible about boyfriend and girlfriend, so if you're not married, you're single, so it's not
Unknown Speaker 52:39
which is so funny to use the Bible to justify
Unknown Speaker 52:43
my love. When people use the Bible like that,
Speaker 2 52:49
which like, part of me is like, is she just, like, doing a character? But I it's too dedicated. I don't know. Maybe she don't know for fun, because she's like, I don't drink.
Unknown Speaker 53:01
Yeah. Can I make a prediction?
Speaker 1 53:03
Yes. I kind of feel like one of these people is going to overdose on fentanyl, just like watching them and knowing that they're doing like Coke and meth and all this different shit. I just, I feel like it could happen.
Speaker 2 53:19
It definitely, I could, that's definitely a Yeah, something that's probably going to happen.
Unknown Speaker 53:28
I don't want to say with all of them, but
Speaker 1 53:30
yeah, I just, I feel like they're walking a line. It's not safe to do drugs anymore. I mean, really though, like, you know, when I was younger, it was like, you could, I mean, as long as you didn't, like, overdose. But now I feel like it's people put weird shit in there that'll fucking kill you, you know, way easier
Speaker 2 53:53
to accidentally overdose, especially if he's already mixing, like, you know, all this other
Speaker 1 53:59
stuff, like, all these weird peptides that I'm sure, like, full of lead and arsenic. FDA has never heard of them, you know? And, yeah, I don't,
Speaker 2 54:09
I don't know if they all like smoke or anything, but I remember in one video, it's blurred out, but one of the people he's with, like, put something to his mouth and like to smoke and then puts it down. So I don't know what it was. I don't know if it was just a vape or, you know, something, I bet it was crack something.
Unknown Speaker 54:22
I'm not joking, I bet it was, probably was
Unknown Speaker 54:27
gentrifying, crack.
Unknown Speaker 54:30
God, so, yeah, those people exist.
Speaker 2 54:37
Clavicular sends Vicky flowers later, and she posts it on social media. People watch onto it, calling them whoavicular, and wait, hold on, there's something I was gonna mention.
Unknown Speaker 54:52
Oh, and another thing with like a post,
Speaker 2 54:57
I saw this, and it was, this was the first. Time I Saw about it, I just saw, like, I was scrolling through Instagram, and I saw, like, an edit of it, of like that their little date, and it was like parts and like, when people make Yeah, it was like the moment that he fell for her. And it was, you know, when she said the thing about her her phone, and then he started laughing. Funniest thing about that whole thing. Whoa Vicki made that.
Unknown Speaker 55:23
Oh, yeah, I'm gonna make my own fan edits.
Speaker 2 55:28
Yeah, the comments were like, This is fucking iconic, that she did this herself, like, uh, which, if she, if that's part of her, you know, trolling thing, that's, that's funny, um. And also, I would like to mention that I don't think him and violet are, like, officially broken up or anything right now. Oh, I could be wrong, maybe, maybe I read some stuff wrong, but I they he may still have a girlfriend.
Speaker 1 55:59
He's gonna get violent to fight? Whoa, Vicky.
Unknown Speaker 56:02
Oh, probably. Who do you
Speaker 1 56:04
think would win? Um, whoa, Vicky seems like, yeah.
Speaker 2 56:09
She seems like, yeah, pull some people's hair out like. She seems like she's fights dirty, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 56:17
She's scooping somebody's eye out with, like, a long nail, yeah, she's curb stomping.
Speaker 2 56:24
Um, so yeah, I'm unclear on if him and violet are still dating. I mean, I assume no, because he's having a dating show, but I like read something that was like, Oh, they're still together, but um, oh, I'm sorry, not together. Still has a warrant out for his arrest. Oh, sorry. I read that. Very stupid, and it's my own notes, but it happens. So they go on another date. And I remember, I think it was at the state Vicki was like, Oh, we're just friends. We're not dating dude, so I don't know if he has the wrong idea, or if they're just, you know, making content, and she's trying to be clear about it. So, yeah, they go on a date. You know, they're streaming the whole thing. They're in the car going home, and Vicki mentions Cloud's home address on streams, and Clive interprets this as her, like, trying to set him up to, like, be jumped or robbed or something, Dox maxing, um, yeah, which, if we call back to the old video of him smashing his face with the baseball trophy, he was like, Oh, I'm gonna be doxing myself with those. I don't know if he said docs maxing, but he should be. He started very young. Um, so yeah, here. So another thing with this clip, you'll you might see, like, a lot of it online, because he's, like, acting like really weird stuff. Is like, Oh, he's having a panic attack. But I watched it and I was like, is he tweaking or having anxiety? Because, like, I don't know. He's pulling, you know, top shirt, stretching his neck and his head all like, weird and yeah, but anyway, so here is a clip of that.
Unknown Speaker 58:18
How do you know where I live?
Unknown Speaker 58:20
I know I know more people that live there too. How do
Speaker 4 58:23
you know we're at how do you know you've never been to my house? Can I come over? But how did you know that? Are you trying to set me up? This is a setup. I'm kind of like getting that feeling.
Unknown Speaker 58:36
Maybe it's just your anxiety, but
Speaker 4 58:39
I feel like I'm usually right about these kind of things. I don't know. That's the number one way people get lying.
Unknown Speaker 58:45
Does this look like a setup to you?
Speaker 5 58:48
I'm right here in this garage, in the garage.
Unknown Speaker 58:53
I mean, that's where I live. Whoa, wait here.
Speaker 4 58:58
Yeah, we'll wait for you. No, no, you don't even take out your phone.
Speaker 4 59:10
What the fuck was that? Yeah, she was moving weird with the addresses, and then,
Speaker 2 59:15
hell no, honestly, that did feel a little sketch, because, like, if someone just, like, told me where I lived, and then I was going to drop them off, and they're like, go to this garage, I would be like, really sketched out too, and not want to, not want to do it. So, yeah, I definitely don't like, I guess, blame him in that situation, yeah, but it is still just a weird fucking situation.
Unknown Speaker 59:39
She also seems like
Speaker 2 59:43
she operates way differently. So it could just be that,
Speaker 1 59:48
yeah, yikes. I did notice that he seems to have some bruising on his neck, so I wonder if that's just like a nervous thing that he does. Saw, or like a drug thing he does, like, all the time.
Speaker 2 1:00:02
Yeah, I've seen it. I've noticed it in other videos. I always just assumed it was hickeys. But maybe this was like an injection site or something, because I know he injects, I know he has injected stuff into his face. Oh, yeah, I wonder if it might be like an injection thing.
Speaker 1 1:00:20
Oh, I meant like, I mean, it definitely could be, but I meant just, like, a nervous, like,
Unknown Speaker 1:00:25
picking at it or, yeah, whether
Speaker 1 1:00:27
or not it's like anxiety or like his like drug behavior,
Unknown Speaker 1:00:30
yeah, yeah, starts
Speaker 1 1:00:32
doing a but, yeah, I didn't think about like, that's where he could inject. Oh, gosh, fucking crazy. Yeah, to be quite like this um, yeah.
Speaker 2 1:00:47
So it's um, it's a pretty crazy um, and that's yeah, we're,
Unknown Speaker 1:00:55
we're at day 14 now, march 26
Speaker 2 1:00:59
clavis streaming in the Everglades on this particular day.
Unknown Speaker 1:01:04
I hope he gets eaten by an alligator.
Speaker 2 1:01:06
Well, I mean, it involves an alligator, yeah, um, and he does something that is like, so Texas or Mississippi, um, I will put like, up front on this the alligator was dead, like, in the clip, they, you know, they're on the boat. It's belly up, it's dead. And then, um, for some reason, someone else in the boat shoots at it, and then Clav takes his gun out and shoots at it. And they're streaming all of this, my God, he
Unknown Speaker 1:01:44
has a gun. Horrible, yeah,
Speaker 2 1:01:47
and yeah, give everyone that uses meth a fucking gun. Geez. So, so yeah, he shoots, shoots that alligator, which, again, whenever I was trying to look up information on this. At first it was just like, you know, streamer clavicular shoots alligator on stream, and I'm like, reading through it, and I'm just like, I thought I saw, like, remember, like, reading comments and stuff that, like the alligator was dead. But like, all the news articles and stuff I read mentioned that, or if it did, it was, like, maybe it was dead. But I don't want to, like, assume, I guess, without, like, a full investigation. But I mean, it looked fucking dead, yeah. And I don't want to say, like, oh, it was cool to still shoot the alligator. No, that's still fucked up and stupid. There should be charges, because, you know, there's like, other use of a corpse, or, yeah, things like that,
Speaker 1 1:02:42
other animals in the water or on land or wherever,
Speaker 2 1:02:47
and so, so, yeah, that that was like, um, a whole thing is, um, it's still bad. But I think there's a lot of articles making it seem worse than it like it was a live alligator they killed the stream, you know, stopped. He got banned from kick again. I don't think I mentioned his, another band of his previously. Oh, yeah. Just know he's been banned before. I can't remember for what. Damn it's not uncommon for kick streamers to get banned all the time. It says
Unknown Speaker 1:03:21
that it's just like a set amount of time, and
Speaker 2 1:03:23
then, yeah, it might just be like a day or a week or, okay, yeah. But typically, usually, I don't know if kick is the same, but I know, like on Twitch, if you have, like, so many bands, maybe within a certain period of time, then like, your channels, yeah, it's a permanent band. The footage of this spread really fast. And quote he said, Yeah, guys, something happened. We're going to have to end the marathon. I'm dead ash chat. I'm not trolling like we have to end this marathon. Oh, my God. And the marathon did not completely end there, you know, it came back and resumed, I guess on like day 20. So yeah, the streams did continue. The Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission has acknowledged the video and investigated because intentionally injuring or killing alligators without authorization is a level four felony,
Unknown Speaker 1:04:30
another one
Speaker 2 1:04:33
in Florida and punishable by up to five in prison, five years imprisonment And $5,000 fine as of late March 2026 no charges have been filed for the specific incident, damn. So, yeah, I assume that is just due to,
Unknown Speaker 1:04:52
I guess, the alligator being dead. So I don't know if they're
Speaker 2 1:04:56
just like, yeah, it's, it's dead. It was fine. But I mean, still.
Unknown Speaker 1:05:02
Um, I think just uh,
Speaker 2 1:05:07
I don't know, towards the end of March, a clap is arrested again in Fort Lauderdale on an outstanding warrant for the misdemeanor and battery in the Airbnb that was mentioned previously, like I was talking earlier, the warrant was still out for the arrest when I was confused with them still being in a relationship. But no, it's just the warrant still out for his arrest. He posts a $1,000 cash bond, and his is released from sour county jail. Yeah, his kick account is banned for a second time. Oh, whenever he got arrested, I remember when it happened, because a lot of people were like, Oh, is this about the alligator? It's about the alligator, because it was like, the day after, or whatever.
Unknown Speaker 1:05:54
And, you know, he was banned from kick so no one really knew what was
Speaker 2 1:05:58
going on day 20 April, 2, he goes to a nightclub and meets Andrew Morales, aka Cuban Tarzan. Someone says that he should put Clav in a choke hold. And of course, Clav agrees, because do it for the content, yeah, he says he'll tap out if it feels weird, but he does not last long enough to tap out. He lets go of flab, and as soon as, as soon as they realize he's out and cloud just like slumps over and people rush to help him,
Unknown Speaker 1:06:34
he begins convulsing,
Speaker 2 1:06:37
which is crazy. Oh my god thing, all that happens on stream. Oh my right. When he comes back, the first thing he says is, Holy fuck, that was the craziest thing ever.
Speaker 1 1:06:49
He's probably like, Yes, I'm so happy that's on camera.
Speaker 2 1:06:55
And I saw another stream a little bit ago. I can't remember what's happening. It was pay money wubby, but something happened where the he, like, passed out or whatever, and everyone was like, Oh, your club Max name. In late March, a fellow streamer publicly accused Peter, or, you know, Clav, of pursuing him into signing NDAs and contracts giving Peter's team control over content and revenue, which is interesting because in the interview with the conservative guy, Knowles, or whatever, he specifically says, like, the guy's like, oh, well, you know, you stream everything. Are you worried about that? Or whatever, you stream yourself, like, doing drugs and class, just like, Oh, I'm not worried about it, because I don't want to be the guy that has people like sign NDAs and stuff when they have to come and worry about stuff.
Unknown Speaker 1:07:52
Now we know why he said that the
Speaker 2 1:07:55
subathon, the subathon, ends around the 30 day mark, despite, you know, the hiccups in the band
Unknown Speaker 1:08:06
and then tiptoe maxing
Unknown Speaker 1:08:11
Jack Mack interview.
Unknown Speaker 1:08:12
Oh my god. Here's
Unknown Speaker 1:08:15
the little clip of that.
Speaker 6 1:08:17
Let's say you hype max you get a girl, you bring her home. How do you get away with like, because you're going to drop in or drop in height, right?
Speaker 3 1:08:26
So what you could either do is you could wait until you're in the bed to kick your shoes off, and that way she won't be able to perceive the height. Because you're you're laying down, you're horizontal. But if you are forced to take off your shoes for whatever reason. You can sag your pants down so that they conceal your heels, and you can tiptoe. Max is a good method, Okay, tip
Speaker 6 1:08:53
toe Max and that and but let's say you wanted to form a relationship with the girl is I should it not matter, then
Speaker 3 1:09:01
it almost is like a fun game, like seeing, okay, how long?
Speaker 6 1:09:05
How long do you think you would, let's just say, different club you this streaming thing isn't happening. You just meet a girl when you're height maxing. How long do you think you could theoretically get away with height maxing before forever
Unknown Speaker 1:09:19
they got to ever get caught with the same woman, yeah,
Unknown Speaker 1:09:25
like, she would know,
Speaker 3 1:09:27
now I'm extremely, like, tactical with it, so I would like, for example, if you put, like, a book, you know, sort of like just popping out from the underneath of your bed, all right, and you take your shoes, you like, stand up and use that as, like, a vantage point, Vantage Okay, yeah,
Unknown Speaker 1:09:46
so, so, yeah, that's our favorite.
Speaker 1 1:09:50
Whenever I saw that, it was like, surely has to be satire. Like, I think it was real.
Speaker 2 1:09:59
Like, all I can. Think of was that song that's like tiptoeing in my daughter.
Speaker 2 1:10:09
I don't know tiptomaxing Sounds like something a like toddler would do, yeah, I don't know it's embarrassing, but it's kind of interesting, because he talks sometimes about being autistic too, and I think I read that it's common for autistic people, oh yeah, up on their toes. So maybe, yeah, maybe he's just trying to find excuses to do that. Maybe. So I did mention about the 60 Minutes Australia interview where they sent his most the attractive reporter to Magnum. I haven't watched that. It like just came out a day or two ago, or, you know, this week. And yeah, he, only thing I really know from that is he also walked out of that interview, so I don't know how long it lasts.
Unknown Speaker 1:10:58
So embarrassing. Yeah.
Speaker 2 1:11:00
And also last night, as of this recording, Alyssa, few things bringing it back full circle. Oh, okay. You wanted to make a prediction earlier about an overdose.
Unknown Speaker 1:11:16
Oh, my gosh.
Speaker 2 1:11:19
Last night, clavicular was taken to a hospital or for overdose, reportedly on GHB, while he is known to take testosterone and methamphetamine, according to the America first post. So it may have been like a meth related thing or or something, but yeah, it was definitely an overdose. Um, he was dreaming in Miami. I believe he wasn't feeling well, and he started slurring like, he just like, like, Oh guys, you know, I gotta go sit down. Is there anywhere you can sit down? And they're like, oh yeah, we can go up here. So they go up these stairs. I thought it was Vegas at first, because the way it's like, laid out with all the bridges and stuff. So they go up these stairs, and then they go into this nightclub. And again, I think this is going to be a thing. I mean, obviously they're out clubbing and stuff, but they're like, he was dried out of a nightclub. It looked like the nightclub was completely empty, and they just went to sit in there because he wasn't feeling good. And like they're giving him water and stuff and his friends, like, you want to Addie, you want to Addie? What? So still trying to get them more drugs, um, and I don't know if the stream cut off or, like, what, like, I don't know if they stopped it because he wasn't feeling well, or he passes out, or what, but from the video I saw, I mean, he was still slur talking, but he was responding to them and stuff like that, sitting up straight. Then the video stops there. And then there I saw another video of him being like, carried downstairs by like, his security people. So, yeah, I don't know at which point he, like, passed out. I'm like, but yeah, dude, haven't had an overdose.
Speaker 1 1:12:58
What if, like, while we're recording, he was like, going to fucking, like, looks maxing heaven.
Speaker 2 1:13:06
Well, he's alive, okay, he's alive if he if he died. I definitely just, like, wasn't even gonna do this episode. I was like, No, do that? That bad timing. Oh, my God. But, um, yeah, he did make it home and posted on X slash Twitter about it. Let me just, god damn it. I fucking linked to it, but it's a, oh, oh, he went live seven hours ago about it too.
Unknown Speaker 1:13:39
I mean, we can do that
Speaker 2 1:13:40
like one and a half minute clip, but, um, he said, Just got home that was brutal. All of the substances are just a cope, trying to trying to feel neurotypical while being in public. But obviously this isn't a real solution. The worst part of tonight was my face descending from the life support mask because he has, like, scratches. And it's like, Dude, you almost fucking died. And you're like, My face has scratches.
Unknown Speaker 1:14:08
This is so crazy.
Speaker 2 1:14:10
Yeah, so again, why was kind of like mentioning the autism? Because it's like, he addresses it. Oh, yes, overdose. Like, I do this stuff to feel normal. Um, so since there, I guess it looks like there's some little clips of him talking. Since then, I'll maybe look at those a little bit later and see if there's anything worth putting in since I haven't vetted that yet. Oh, my God, but with this going on, I did want to end it with a quote that kind of stuck out to me from something he said in the Michael Knowles interview.
Speaker 1 1:14:53
Is that the first guy this like guy,
Speaker 2 1:14:57
yeah, he doesn't want to fornicate Max, yeah.
Unknown Speaker 1:15:00
14 year old kid.
Speaker 7 1:15:03
14 year olds go through a lot of problems, lot of self image issues, girls and boys. Why? Why did you do this when most 14 year olds don't well?
Speaker 3 1:15:15
So I'm a bit of an autist, right? So I was just like, there's this thing that could get me to my desired physique quicker. Like, why wouldn't I do that? It wasn't like your, you know, your typical 14 year old who goes on Instagram and sees like, you know, a picture of David late, or like Chris Bumstead, and it's like, oh, like, I want to look like that guy. I'm just like, well, objectively, this is going to get me there quicker. So why would I not? You know, are there it was kind of the
Unknown Speaker 1:15:40
mentality, are there downsides? There? Are there sides?
Speaker 3 1:15:42
Of course, yeah, no. So there's a lot that can go wrong if you're not very careful with, you know, using anabolic steroids, obviously. So I was someone who did my due diligence and made sure things didn't go horribly wrong. There's certainly things I could have went about better, and I wish I had a more comprehensive understanding before I, you know, decided to go this route. But, you know, we're here now, damn,
Speaker 1 1:16:08
but it's frustrating because he's he's saying, I wish I would have known all this, but like, he's exposing, like, literal children to this so that they can do the exact same shit I suffered.
Speaker 2 1:16:21
So you suffer. And dude, he's almost kind of, like admitting he's not, like, as smart as he thinks he is, yeah, kind of in that way, like, I wish I would have known all this. I wish I would have not started it, at least that's how I took it, um, and it was I mentioned earlier, the thing where he was, like, on the comments, like, Oh, I'm a streamer, so I can't do that. On the post where he was saying, like, I'm back home, blah, blah, blah, like, I do this to feel neurotypical, someone in the comments was like, Dude, you should just autism Max and just be yourself. Oh yeah, and sweet. And that was his response to that. Was like, oh, you know, I would, but I can't, because I'm a full time streamer. So like, if
Speaker 1 1:17:03
he's making that much fucking money, like he has enough to live off of, at least for a while, you
Speaker 2 1:17:08
know, yeah, yeah. And if he's, I mean, I don't know. I feel like maybe he doesn't accept his autism or something, because I feel like he's working so hard against, like, yeah, because he's like, Oh, I would be myself, but I can't because of this. And it's like, I don't know. I hope he figures it out soon, because it'd be nice to not have this bad influence in the world. But he's also just, like, breaking and just,
Speaker 1 1:17:35
I mean, hopefully he'll hit a point where he's like, I literally can't anymore.
Speaker 2 1:17:39
Yeah, I'm sorry, guys, I can't be a Nazi. Yeah, I can't, fucking dude. But yeah, I feel like, because in another interview, he was like, Yeah, well, you know, it's been a while since I've been to the gym, so I'm like, okay, he's slowing down gym, eating fast food. He's doing meth. He overdosed. Like he's starting to go down a track where people are gonna be like, Dude, you got some belly fat, and that's not gonna be good for him. Anyway. I'm glad he didn't overdose, because I would be a horrible death. I hope he gets search. Would have been
Unknown Speaker 1:18:15
down the drain so I could do this
Unknown Speaker 1:18:19
episode. He would have really ruined.
Speaker 1 1:18:26
But thank you so much. That was like, that's a wild ride, and I'm sure it's gonna keep going. Yeah, I feel like it like
Speaker 2 1:18:37
just started. I mean, he's been been streaming since he was very young, like 14, but I feel like stuff really started picking up at the end of last year and just fucking,
Speaker 1 1:18:48
I'm gonna go ahead and induct him into the douche Hall of Fame with Andrew Tate liver King, yeah, put
Speaker 2 1:18:55
him up there with all the people he was singing racist Kanye
Speaker 1 1:18:58
West stuff with. Yes, he's in the douche Hall of Fame, and I look forward to hearing more in the future. And thank you for getting all that together. I mean, like, you fucking had it, like, with the clips and, like, it was very well organized.
Speaker 2 1:19:11
Yes, thanks. I just, I remember the one I did with the liver King, and I was like, I kind of want to do something like that.
Speaker 1 1:19:16
Hell yeah, that was really good. You've inspired me. I'm like, Oh, what do I'm what am I gonna do next?
Unknown Speaker 1:19:23
I'm excited.
Speaker 2 1:19:25
Yeah, it's been a while since we've done like, a, you know, super research tea kind of episode. So yeah, thanks for taking the ride. And, oh yeah, I hope it was enjoyable.
Speaker 1 1:19:36
Definitely. I'm like, I enjoyed it. That's all that matters.
Speaker 2 1:19:40
And if you enjoyed it, fat heads, like, subscribe, comment, send us an email. Yeah? Email us a story or something that you want us to research. I promise you, we're not going to be like this person sent us something like, No, we Yeah. Now I'm sounding desperate. I'm like, No, we want stuff. Um. And D rock and Dick crash. I know I talked to them about a couple things that also talked about on the podcast, just like very short stories, but this came up so sorry, hell yeah.
Unknown Speaker 1:20:11
Awesome. But um, party Maxx!
Unknown Speaker 1:20:16
Party MaxX. Yeah. Party MaxX! You.
Speaker 1 1:20:31
This is very like, oh my god, I I'm like, so worried for the future watching this.