Dive into some Clavicularmaxxing with the ladies! An info-tainment episode about the wild world of Clavicular and looksmaxxing.
Dive into some Clavicularmaxxing with the ladies! An info-tainment episode about the wild world of Clavicular and looksmaxxing.
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Speaker 1 0:00
Jamie, guess what I did today? And I'll give you a hint. It's something I've been talking about for a while.
shopping for antiques?
Unknown Speaker 0:08
I took a puff of a cigarette, yes.
Speaker 2 0:22
And was
Speaker 1 0:35
it, you know, I will say it wasn't as magical as I wanted it to be.
Unknown Speaker 0:41
Oh, what was like? What was missing again,
Speaker 1 0:44
the taste was not what I wanted exactly. So, I mean, and it was like some cigarettes that I had smoked before, but I don't know. I mean, I'm not gonna give up. I'll press some other ones, but, but, I mean, I guess it's a good thing, because now I'm not gonna be like, Yeah, I'm gonna spend like, $100 a week on cigarettes, but
Unknown Speaker 1:11
never quit, not smoking.
Speaker 1 1:12
Yeah, exactly, exactly. But I tried, and that's what we do here on the nervous laughter podcast, where
Unknown Speaker 1:22
my name is Jamie and my name
Speaker 1 1:25
is Alyssa, will puffer, yeah, and you know,
Speaker 3 1:29
if you're smoking a cigarette now, just blow a little bit at the speaker for Alyssa,
Unknown Speaker 1:34
she's wafting it now, and who knows,
Speaker 1 1:36
maybe I just like the smell more than the act. And that's fine, too.
Speaker 3 1:40
Smell has a lot to do with taste too, right? So maybe, you know, maybe you can, just like, inhale the cloud.
Unknown Speaker 1:48
Can you hot box me a cigarette, please?
Speaker 3 1:52
Oh, maybe you could, um, just like, empty out a cigarette on top of a hookah and just like, oh yeah, smoke it through hookah.
Unknown Speaker 2:00
Good. Um, well,
Speaker 3 2:05
you know, Alyssa, I would say that you were cigarette maxing.
Unknown Speaker 2:09
I was cigarette maxing, you're right.
Speaker 3 2:11
And the past few days, I have been clavicular macking, maxing. As you
Unknown Speaker 2:21
can see, my brain's a little fried from it,
Unknown Speaker 2:24
clavicular word.
Speaker 3 2:27
So, yeah, clavicular is a person that I've been wanting to cover for a little while. And then, okay, well, that's his like, you know his tag, or, you know his like, stream name and stuff. So he just goes by Clav. And it's funny, because in the interview, they're like, he was like, Oh, well, what do you want me to call you? His name is Brian. He's like, is Brian? Okay? And he was like, oh, haven't heard that one in so long.
Speaker 1 2:49
Oh, gross. Whenever you said clavicular, I, I thought that was, like, some sort of term for, like, the brain.
Speaker 3 2:58
It's, I think, actually, like, yeah, like, supposed to be, like a clavicle on words, but he's missing his clavicular, yeah.
Speaker 1 3:10
Oh, sorry, go. Oh no, I just said he is. He's a fucking idiot,
Speaker 3 3:15
yes, and he's just been doing so much, and since, you know, the end of last year and the beginning of this year, and I was kind of waiting for some stuff to develop, and then, like, now 60 Minutes, Australia has an interview on him. And yeah, he's just like, yeah, we'll get to all that. Um, so yeah, we'll roll into it. And I had a lot of stuff. There is a few little things that I just, like, crossed out, and I already know that, like, I don't have everything. There's more stuff I could probably be flushed out. I might be missing, like, specific dates on certain things, whatever, don't search but I did the best I could with the time I had. And before we dive in, I just want to let you know that there may be some vocabulary that you haven't heard.
Unknown Speaker 4:10
Hopefully you haven't, because you're not
Speaker 3 4:13
into the shit. Some of it's quite easy to kind of like, you know, assume what it means. But I thought it'd be fun just to have little vocabulary things throughout this and I have clips of him saying what most of it is, but a few things I have written. So without any further ado, today, we're going to be talking about Brandon, Eric Peters, born December 17, 2005 and hobicin, yes, he's young. Yeah, it's like, baby. I think he's, yeah, he's only 20 as of, like, right now. Oh, yeah. So he was born in New Jersey, and obviously you'll know him better as clavicular or Clav. He does a lot of streams on kick and. Is popular on Tiktok and Instagram. You know, with all the stories and
Unknown Speaker 5:07
shorts and things like that, bods,
Speaker 1 5:11
that's how I've seen him. Well, I've seen people like reacting to his shit like that, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 5:17
And it's funny because, well, I don't want to say like, we followed him for a while, but some of the different YouTubers we watch, like, do reaction videos and stuff to like some of his streams and interviews and stuff like that. So that's, yeah, we've just been kind of passively following him for for a while. So like I mentioned earlier, he named himself after clavicles. He has pretty much become the face of looks maxing. And if you don't know what looks maxing
Unknown Speaker 5:55
is, what are you doing with your life?
Speaker 3 5:56
Yeah, here is Clav telling you what, uh, telling us what it is.
Speaker 4 6:02
Well, that's because they don't know what they're doing. A lot of them are opting to go with things like filler and botox, which can, like you said, lead to these botch jobs. You know, look at guys like, you know, Zach Efron, who have tons of filler in their face, and it starts to migrate. It's just not a look that anyone should be pursuing. But looks maxing can be as simple as losing weight, right? So even going on a diet, which I'm sure is something that you've done previously, is part of looks maxing. It's not just these super intensive plastic surgeries or these cosmetic procedures. It's just anything that's going to improve your looks.
Speaker 3 6:43
So, yeah, that is what looks maxing is, um, and you notice you kind of just, like set a bunch of different stuff. So there's kind of like two different sub genres of looks matching. Okay, there's soft maxing. Uh, the tame end of looks, maxing, which is just kind of, you know, like basic stuff, like grooming, gym, posture, skincare, you know, would it
Speaker 1 7:12
be what used to be called being meterosexual? Yes. Oh, okay,
Speaker 3 7:17
and I'm glad you thought of that too, because I was like, off maxing is just
Unknown Speaker 7:20
like, it's just like, yeah, how dudes should
Speaker 3 7:23
do Metro sexual. But yeah, I wanted to, I didn't have time to do this, but I wanted to, like, try to make like, a comparison of like, what's going on now, to like that back then
Unknown Speaker 7:40
and then there is also hard maxing,
Speaker 3 7:45
which is the extreme end of it all. So that's going to be like surgery, hormone injections, cosmetic procedures, and basically, a lot of what clav's doing, that's basically his, you know, field, his thing.
Speaker 1 8:00
So does he get into the stuff like, when dudes like, hit their face with hammers and, like, file their teeth?
Speaker 3 8:07
Okay? And I will, yeah, I have him. I have a little video of him, like, before we dive deeper in, it looks like I'm missing something I wanted to mention in my notes. He has said before that he's like, autistic and stuff. And other people that have walked like, watch him, like an interview or something like, they don't know, and they'll be like, This guy's definitely autistic. I'm mentioning it up front because it'll kind of come full circle. Oh, okay, at the end, I'm setting up for later. Do so he grew up with a stay at home mom and a businessman father, so, you know, like, God yes, I actually, oh, I will say I don't know if he's religious, but, um, he did go to a Christian school, damn it. I don't think I wrote this in there either. But I'll kind of mention it when it when I think it happened that he got sent there.
Unknown Speaker 9:08
It's my next sentence.
Speaker 3 9:12
He went to a private Catholic prep school where he says he struggled socially and was regularly mocked for his looks. And I remember he, I don't know if he'll be able to link the video, because I can't remember which one it was, but, uh, he had said that his mom wrote the essay for him to get into that school because he had applied for another one familiar and got rejected. And so she had, like, done that as, a backup plan that, and she didn't tell him about it, and she was like, well, they got rejected from that one. Here you go. I I did this for you to get into this one. So babying
Unknown Speaker 9:51
your son, maxing,
Unknown Speaker 9:53
fucking boy moms. Boy mom, maxing.
Speaker 3 9:56
This is what happens when you. Fucking hard, Max boy, maxing. Yeah. So of course, covid hits, and I feel like all kids of that generation are going to have some kind of issues from staying home, going to school and not socializing and stuff. And he winds that. He winds up being online 14 hours a day. He does a lot of browsing looks, maxing forums and playing games. After becoming engrossed in looks, maxing, he starts photoshopping photos of himself to help visualize what he wanted to
Unknown Speaker 10:36
look like. It's like a vision board,
Speaker 3 10:39
yeah, which is crazy, because you think about, like, all the Photoshop that were already served from like, big media, and it's like, no, I must take it further, which I know we're laughing about it, because it just, it does seem so silly to do that, but, um, but yeah, we also acknowledge that it's really bad, and yeah, society has just totally fucked a bunch of stuff up.
Unknown Speaker 11:05
Everything, basically, yes,
Speaker 3 11:07
and he kind of got this way. Well, I think he had issues before, but then he started working at a bar, or, like, a restaurant, bar place, and then he kind of noticed, like, the only men getting women were like, super hot guys, and he was like, they wouldn't even say anything. They could just go up and start making out with a girl, and it's like, one you don't even know if that's true. Like, they could have known each other before, and I don't know it's lots of lots of presumptions going on here. So at the age of 14, he begins ordering testosterone supplements, steroids and fat dissolvers online. Yes, oh no. And I think that's, I don't know if he was just making videos, but I'm pretty sure he was streaming from that at that time too. I don't know if it was on like Twitch or kick so yeah, he started engaging in these techniques like bone smashing, which, here we have him describe.
Speaker 4 12:07
Think about all the time that you've spent throughout your entire life talking about homophobic slurs. What if you were to dedicate all that time to bone smashing? You know, imagine where you could have been. Is that a euphemism, no bone smashing. What is bone smashing? That sounds like what the trainees do? No, it's where you induce micro fractures. And this principle follows Wolf's law that a bone is going to grow back stronger. You know, after you do these localized micro traumas. So you're you're going to lay in your bed to brace your head for CTE, and you're going to bone Smash.
Speaker 5 12:41
You're gonna lay in your bed and brace your head for it. CTE is, isn't that like brain damage? Well, no. So that's why you lay in your Okay, and that's gonna grow your facial bones.
Unknown Speaker 12:50
You you smash like you punch yourself
Unknown Speaker 12:53
in the face, yeah? If I punch myself in the face, I'm
Speaker 5 12:56
gonna get like, a nice mute up jaw, yeah, according to Wolf's law, right? Do you punch yourself in the face?
Unknown Speaker 13:02
Yes? How hard? Like, reasonably,
Unknown Speaker 13:09
just your fist?
Unknown Speaker 13:10
Yeah. I see he's a hammer, but
Speaker 4 13:14
my parents would would go into my bathroom and take it away. So that was you would hit yourself in the head with a hammer. Yeah, I know it sounds, it sounds a little silly, like people are gonna think I'm trolling, but it's all like on YouTube, like you could find this stuff.
Speaker 5 13:27
I almost don't want to ask, did it work? Yeah, absolutely, yes.
Speaker 4 13:34
Yeah, bone smashing is legit. I mean, you even take a look at, like, UFC fighters, like their brow ridge over their career, or or X rays of their shin and like there's massive amounts of hypertrophy in their bones, is that,
Speaker 5 13:46
are there any downsides to hitting yourself in the head with a hammer?
Speaker 4 13:50
No, no. As long as you have proper bracing, you're gonna be fine. But that's what I mean. That's just like one example of something that you could do instead of political activism.
Unknown Speaker 14:02
Yeah. Oh, what do you think of that?
Speaker 1 14:04
Alyssa, you know, I kind of want to say he's kind of like taking on the messaging that I feel like has been traditionally intended for young women, where it's like, just worry about how you look, don't worry about what's fucking going on. Don't worry about
Unknown Speaker 14:25
the politics that we don't want
Speaker 1 14:27
you to vote for. Yeah. Like, don't be a political person. You don't have to be political. Just like, just look pretty, just look nice.
Speaker 3 14:35
It's funny because he brings up all the time, like, I'm not political, but if you look like, oh god. So in this interview, they talk a lot about politics.
Speaker 1 14:43
That's a fucking dog whistle for being conservative. Whenever people say they're not political, I'm like, okay, yeah.
Speaker 3 14:51
And I mean, I feel like it's kind of clear who he Well, I guess he wasn't old enough to vote, but who he's going to vote for? That's for. Be clear,
Speaker 1 15:01
Trump, 2024 baby. Yeah. What year is it?
Unknown Speaker 15:05
2028 I was with you on that, though.
Speaker 3 15:11
That interview was with Michael Knowles. He's like a conservative. I mean, as you could probably tell from some of that stuff, but it was funny, because throughout the interview, as they keep talking, I just wanted to mention this, he said, uh, actually, let me just pull up the clip, because it was really funny, because he tries to keep, like, going off of the like, maxing language. And he's like, you know, because I'm like, spiritual waxing, or, Why don't you need spiritual max or book maxing? Like, why are you just focused on looks maxing? But here's one that was particularly funny.
Speaker 4 15:47
Well, if you're just trying to go for like, you know, one night stands and slay, it doesn't really matter. I would no longer be trying to slay. I would be trying to capture
Unknown Speaker 15:57
and marry.
Speaker 5 15:58
Oh, I would not be I would find it to be sinful to fornication Max. I would be avoiding that
Speaker 3 16:08
fornication max. And I also just want to point out the way he kind of said, like I would capture in there, also clavicular in the beginning of this interview. It's funny, because the way he's like talking, it's like, first you have to identify a girl, and then you have to step one. And I was like, Oh, that reminds me of me Alyssa talk on the podcast. Because we're just like that that
Speaker 1 16:40
you'll say this, and then yeah, and then I'll produce
Speaker 3 16:44
a cry. Sorry I'm making like, robust motions, just like feeling my inner Mark Zuckerberg, like, um, so, yeah, that was just a funny little part from the um that the interviewer said, kind of feeling like he's trying to, like, you know, establish rapport.
Unknown Speaker 17:05
I'm cool too. I'm Bible maxing.
Unknown Speaker 17:11
Oh, Faith maxing.
Speaker 3 17:14
So, as Clive said, and, um, one of the videos earlier, you know, his parents found his hammers, and they would take them away. But of course, he would find other things. For instance, there's this video of him doing it with a baseball trophy. Just heads up. He's kind of like baby looking so he's like, you know, I don't know if this is like when he was like 14, but, I mean, I would guess it's like 14, 1516, like, definitely under 17. And I guess I could only find it with the stupid music in the background. So sorry,
Speaker 6 17:52
right here, I've got one of my baseball trophies, which I probably shouldn't show, because it's, uh, Dox fuel for my IRL location. So we're just gonna conceal the town logo from this trophy. But anyway, this is an object that we were using in place of a hammer, because my mother actually did find out that I was bone smashing right, and wanted to put an end to that, so she inevitably took away my hammer to try and prevent me. But real ones, though, that's not gonna stop a true Lux maxing bone Smasher, right?
Unknown Speaker 18:27
So anyway, let's get started.
Unknown Speaker 18:30
That made me want to scream, yeah.
Speaker 3 18:33
It's just, yeah, pretty painful to sit there and watch someone fucking
Unknown Speaker 18:38
hit at their face.
Speaker 1 18:41
It's just like, so fucking stupid that everything is like a maxing thing, like, it's just why, I don't know. I feel like it's weird over explaining, and like, people seem to do that a lot now. Like, this was video recently, and it was like, Have you ever thought about how, like, if something you said became someone's vocal stem, and then somebody in the comments was like, I mean, like, I get where you're going with it, but that's just like, called an inside joke. Says something weird, and then, like, you know, you just stick with it and say it that way. But yeah, I feel like everything has, like, very specific labels now, and it's just weird, yeah, yeah.
Unknown Speaker 19:33
No, no, I agree. I agree.
Speaker 1 19:34
Like, and so, like, yeah, I care about my appearance. It's like, yeah, Look Max looks maxing and bone smashing and like, what?
Speaker 3 19:43
Yeah, yeah. It's kind of crazy, because I remember thinking whenever I was a teenager, I was like, hmm, with all, like, there's these things that adults are complaining about kids doing now, like, what are the Yeah, extreme things when I'm going to be an adult, and here we go. Here we are. So I'm not sure if he might have used any other random things around, because I haven't seen, like, videos or any talk about it, but, like, I assume, yes, he probably did.
Speaker 1 20:13
Yeah, actually, do you see anything in the room here that you think you would like to use to bone, smash, smash, Max.
Speaker 3 20:23
Well, there's like, a, you can't really see it from there, but there's like, a keyboard. Oh, that's pretty heavy. I feel like, I mean, I wouldn't be able to lay down on the bed, like, he Yeah, advise CTE, but yeah, I would. I don't know that seems like it'd be easy to just like, hold up on the side and just like, let it fucking rock into your face over and over. Yeah, yeah. What about you?
Speaker 1 20:50
Um, I kind of want to pick, like, a ukulele or something.
Speaker 3 20:55
Yeah, I thought it would be light enough to, like, hit, but I don't know if it
Unknown Speaker 20:59
would like, you might see more.
Unknown Speaker 21:00
Yeah, I'm looking for like,
Unknown Speaker 21:04
impact maxing.
Speaker 1 21:06
I also feel like a mason jar could be kind of like, especially if you filled it up with water, that would be a pretty hard hit. Oh yeah, that's a good idea. Smash, yeah. I mean,
Speaker 3 21:18
you could probably even fill it up with like, yeah, just like something like rocks or something heavy too. I feel like that would be like, the next trend, like Tiktok. Like, yeah. This is my bone smashing jar today with, you know, glitter and, you know, the slime
Speaker 1 21:34
and shit. Oh, my God, are you gonna become, are you gonna quit the podcast and become a bone maxing influencer.
Speaker 3 21:44
Oh, man, you know, don't leave me. You know who's been bone maxing for a long time, that guy that's been smashing those, um, like, the scooters, intuition. Have you ever seen that guy? Yeah, he must have some, like, very strong legs, yeah, Shin maxing.
Unknown Speaker 22:02
Oh, um, high school, I was self harm maxing,
Speaker 3 22:11
just a little bark humor for for the episode, which is why I assume he used whatever he could find, because
Unknown Speaker 22:21
that's what you had to do. That's what you
Speaker 3 22:25
do. So, as I mentioned before, you know, he starts doing like testosterone and hormones and stuff when he was 14 years old, and his parents would, you know, take, obviously, take it away when they found it, along with the hammers and stuff. And once, when it was taken away for a few months, he stopped producing testosterone. What? Yeah, because he's uh, I don't know if I have a clip of it for later, but yeah, he even says, Now that he even at the age of 19, he was just been saying that he's infertile because he's just been using hormones, injecting so much hormones that his body doesn't, like, naturally produce it anymore. Oh my
Unknown Speaker 23:10
god, yeah. And I don't
Speaker 3 23:12
have, like, a medical write down of it and stuff or anything. I'm not saying he's like, smart, but he's he, and one thing I was watching, he was talking about, like, the levels of something he he's producing, or whatever. And he's like, I assume very heavily that it's very unlikely that I am fertile. Um, so yeah, it's,
Speaker 1 23:41
man, it's probably also, like, the stress of punching yourself in the face all the time, right? That can't be good for you having all that, like, cortisol and, yeah, and
Speaker 3 23:53
I don't know how, like, all the other things he's injecting himself with affects, like the healing of that, like, I don't know if that would like, yeah, make it harder for your body to heal. Maybe it makes it not heal, like he thinks with Wolf's law or whatever, but, but yeah, it's a yes. It's pretty crazy. And I will just say I, for a while, thought he was like late 20s, maybe like young 30s, but yeah, he's, I was like, Oh, my God, he's 19. What the fuck Um? So yeah, his parents would also, you know, ground him take away his Xbox, things like that. Obviously, that didn't work, so they wound up sending him to live with his grandmother, and they just stopped trying to intervene.
Unknown Speaker 24:51
So granny lets me have all the hammers I want.
Speaker 3 24:54
And it's so funny, because there's a picture I'll see if I can find it for the Instagram. But he's like. Flexing like in the mirror, and it's his. And you know what? Maybe this is like, just similar to how women that have felt, because it's like he has like a tiny, tiny stomach and waist area, but he has like, huge ass, fucking like torso and muscles up top. And it's just kind of like good. But he's flexing in the mirror like that. And his grandma, you can see her like in the side of the mirror taking the picture. Love you, Grandma. Grandma, maxing bitch. Um, so here is a video of him talking about that. When did you start the bone smashing?
Speaker 4 25:43
I started bone smashing when I was 16. Yeah, you could use your best to use a hammer. But my mom used to always go in my bathroom and take away my hammers. She took away my baseball trophy because I was starting to hit him with that. After she
Speaker 7 25:56
took the hammers away, Jamie said he started bone smashing at 14 years old earlier, which is wrong based on this clip. Sorry. She's a dumb, dumb doo.
Speaker 1 26:05
Doo head. It's just annoying. It's like, well, you could ascend in this or ascend and that. It's like, just like, bettering yourself again. I don't know. It's just like, we have to have a new vocabulary for this. It's like a new cool thing. Only cool people understand,
Speaker 3 26:24
yeah, it's a, I feel like it's very culty, yeah, like black pilling, and then they're making their own, you know, vocabulary, yes, regiments. That's just kind of like, yeah,
Speaker 1 26:37
that's a really good it's like, I'm ascending living. It's like, No, you're eating like an MLM, yeah.
Speaker 3 26:52
So not only was he kicked out of his parents house for testosterone use, he was also kicked out of college after only three weeks. Oh, that's so depressed, yeah, and if I recall right, it was due to Yeah, the same like drug use and things like that. At this point, it seems like he decides to go all in on looks maxing. He adds steroids, various peptides and methamphetamine, which he claims to use to suppress appetite and stay lean.
Speaker 1 27:33
Oh, my God, full blown eating disorder. This is so similar to what women go through.
Speaker 3 27:38
Yeah, yeah. It's kind of sad to see, and it's crazy because, like, there's small parts of me that are like, Oh, I feel bad for him because he's, like, still a baby. Like, he's, yeah, he's a child, yeah.
Unknown Speaker 27:49
Like, his brain is not fully developed, yeah.
Speaker 3 27:52
Like, I have a small piece of myself that feels bad for this autistic child, yeah, and definitely. But there's another part of me that's like, fuck him, because he's done spread so much, fucked up, doing a lot of damage. Yeah? Um, so I guess I'm trying to say, yeah, yeah. If there is, I guess what I'm saying is, I hope there's kind of a redemption arc for for him, yeah? So, yeah, he's a fucking crazy but we can still feel, you know, a little bad for him. But also, fuck him, yeah. So the anabolic steroids, oh, and and also, he does all this stuff on stream too,
Speaker 1 28:37
like shooting up meth on stream. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 3 28:42
know if he just like pops in the bathroom, but I mean he, yeah, he's does it on stream, for sure, and also has injected others on stream, which we'll talk about a little bit too. Wow. So the the anabolic steroids he took for several years, which, again, he said, stop making him produce testosterone. And here's another clip of him talking about that.
Speaker 4 29:12
So right now I am infertile, but I'm not able to have a kid right now, but if I wanted to, there's a protocol I can put in place that be immediately gonna get why are you in fertile right now? So there's just like a negative feedback loop when you're not needing to produce testosterone anymore, because your body realizes, okay, we're getting it from producing any testosterone naturally. No, none.
Speaker 3 29:35
No. Yeah, he's more like fertility minimizing, and a lot of his stuff is, like, very hypocritical, because, you know, he'll be kind of like, people are wasting time, like going to clubs and partying and doing this and that, but that's like, what he does, like, I don't know,
Speaker 1 29:58
fucking hitting yourself. Up in the face with a hand, where can you comment on people wasting your time?
Speaker 3 30:04
And he's like, people should be at home reading about reading, like medical articles and journals and stuff, and learning about this and that. But it's just so weird, because it's like his mind is just so zoned in on, like, how he sees the world, and he thinks that, like, attractiveness is, like, all of these, like metrics, like how symmetrical Your face is, and all these measurements and stuff and so, um, so, yeah, he fucking, like, goes, rips, rips in about like, Sydney Sweeney and JD Vance. He's like, she's, she's, uh, did he call her ugly? I don't know if he called her ugly, but he was just like, he was just ripping into her. He was like, her, I can't remember something was, like, on her cheekbone, like, too big and like, all these other things. And he's like, if she didn't have boobs, no one would think she was attractive. Oh my gosh, just her big boobs. But it's also like, Okay, some people find large boobs attractive. Yeah? So this is just your opinion, man, dude,
Unknown Speaker 31:11
she's a bad person, but there's
Speaker 3 31:12
nothing wrong. Yeah, you can't say that she's, like, ugly. She's at least, like, very objectively attractive person. So it's just like, it's, I don't know. It's just crazy. This child needs reassurance and confirmation and just like, yeah. So around this time, class Tiktok at King clavicular starts gaining traction in early to 2025 in the manosphere, bubble and obviously the looks maxing community. He also starts to stream on kick and his early content was mostly personal transformation stories, grooming tutorials, grooming like self grooming, yeah, and looks maxing advice. He starts doing collabs, getting lots of reels and shorts, becoming more and more popular. By September, he gained the attention of Wired, who named him, you know, one of the most popular influencers and looks maxing. And like any popular influencer in the manosphere club, started teaching a course
Unknown Speaker 32:32
looks maxing University, the
Unknown Speaker 32:35
clavicular system,
Unknown Speaker 32:40
for only $50 a month
Speaker 3 32:43
subscription, kind of similar to Andrew Tate, kind of the monthly
Speaker 1 32:50
accessories University, in case anyone forgot, yeah,
Speaker 3 32:56
and so yeah, this is, this includes guides on physical practices, you know, like bone smashing and probably all the other shit and peptide recommendations. So yes, this 19 year old who made himself infertile and hit some stuff in the face with a hammer wants you to pay him $50 a month to learn his ways.
Speaker 1 33:17
You know what? Though, like, the world is so fucked. I'm sure he's making great money. Yeah, yeah. He probably cracked the code via zillionaire,
Speaker 3 33:28
unfortunately, yeah, probably lots of kids taking their parents credit cards. And he did a, there's a video where he met with some of his top donors, or something, and it was just like, so cringy and awkward. They were like, kind of like, I guess you could say they're they were a little more like Princess, kind of Oh yeah,
Unknown Speaker 33:56
of the princess, Hawaii,
Speaker 3 33:59
Princess Maxine, oh,
Speaker 3 34:08
at no surprise, the clavicular system was renamed to claviculars Clan.
Unknown Speaker 34:14
Oh, my God,
Speaker 3 34:16
he's already been kind of known to be a little anti semitic or involved with those who are so that's not a good look. Class content starts to extend past the looks. Maxing bubble on tick tock around October, November, and he starts rating strangers attractiveness on stream, pseudo specific facial anatomy, language,
Speaker 1 34:43
dude, he is Nazi maxing at this point. Yeah, it's your bone structure is
Unknown Speaker 34:48
wrong, and it's crazy, because it's like,
Speaker 3 34:53
I get that you're like, changing all this stuff about you, but it's like, you, your DNA does not is not. Ever going to look that way? And when you have a kid, well, he can't have a kid, I guess, but it's like
Speaker 1 35:07
that he's gonna have the stuff that you change, yeah,
Speaker 3 35:10
and then you have to deal with that. And, I mean, that's not gonna be good, because he's probably like, all right, you're old enough to hit your face with the hammer. Now, hold still. I'll do it for you, son. And like, I don't know it's, yeah, it's, it's, it's scary and weird, but also kind of weird that. So he constantly says, like, Oh, I'm not recommending people do what I do. But I mean, you're doing on stream. You're like, you're, you're
Unknown Speaker 35:36
producing guys, you're showing how to do it.
Speaker 3 35:38
Yeah. So, so, yeah, it's like, he's promoting it, but he made himself infertile. So if he influences all of these other like, looks maxing manosphere men to be infertile, like,
Unknown Speaker 35:54
you know what? Scary. But actually, I
Speaker 1 35:58
think it's good. Can't reproduce, that's fine, yeah. And it's so
Unknown Speaker 36:03
funny too, because he's, he's, I remember in another
Speaker 3 36:07
video, he was talking about, like, like, natural selection, and just like, you know, something with other people that, like, you know, do drugs or this or that. And he's like, Well, let's just like, you know, natural selection. And it's like, Dude, you fucking natural selected your fucking gene pool out of here, like, I don't think it's kind of ironic and fucking nuts.
Unknown Speaker 36:33
So, yeah, he starts
Speaker 3 36:36
writing strangers attractiveness, like I said, he's really into, like the, I don't know, statistics, numbers, whatever, or attractiveness on the breakdown of the face. So that's how he would do it. Also he would demonstrate bone smashing and discuss his pharmaceutical regime. God in November on the stream, cloud had his then 17 year old girlfriend, violet on during the stream cloud injects her with a fat dissolving peptides into her cheek because they wanted to reshape her jaw.
Unknown Speaker 37:15
Here is the video. Oh, Violet,
Speaker 4 37:21
guys, if you're a Normie here, this is a fat dissolver. This is a lipolysis agent, injectable.
Unknown Speaker 37:28
Lipolysis is what we're doing.
Unknown Speaker 37:33
Time for round two, this one will be better.
Speaker 8 37:41
I'm not a I'm not a rookie. Did you make sure to make some a little nothing. Chat, where looks maxing her? Where looks maxing her? It's all good. Dr Clive, yeah, she's
Unknown Speaker 37:58
about to be lean as fuck.
Unknown Speaker 38:01
These hollow cheeks are better. Come in Yeah. We got all of her yeah.
Speaker 8 38:04
She's already leaning, but this is gonna be Yeah, all right, so we're gonna take two swabs
Unknown Speaker 38:11
and we're just gonna rub it.
Speaker 1 38:14
That is so bad to say. It's just Yeah, yeah. And he's talking about how she's lean, but, you know, they need to, like, thin out her face. Like, that's another thing that dictates fertility with women, if you are too thin, you are not going to get pregnant. Like, your body will stop your menstrual cycle in order to try to just, like, preserve your life. He's encouraging people to be super thin, yeah. That's also not conducive to your body functioning normally. That is, yeah.
Speaker 3 38:53
And I never caught the guy in the back saying, like, oh, did you mix it with meth? Like, whoa, okay, maybe he's doing way more month than I thought. That's like, feel
Speaker 1 39:03
like we need a body horror movie about this. Yes, this is kind of the substance, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 39:12
Like, when's his fucking New Year's Eve gonna be?
Speaker 1 39:18
It's gonna be on stream as his face fall off live.
Speaker 3 39:23
Ah, dude, it's yeah, it's gonna happen. And I kind of noticed there's a lot of times when he's being interviewed, and even some like, there's some parts of stream. I haven't found a ton of videos, but I found, I was trying to find this one specific stream where I read that he cried and was talking about people, like not voting him and stuff. I couldn't find the video, but I found an article from India that had, like, a quote from what he said. I was like, what? But yeah, there's times where on stream, he'll just be. Like, all these people are only here because I'm on stream, and they want to be on my stream. They don't care about me. Like, as soon as the stream is off, they're gone. And it's like, dude, so it's kind of sad, and you can kind of see in some interviews that he's like, it's like he's just trying to, again, I guess, like an autism thing. He's just trying to mask the sad yeah and stuff. He's, he's mass masking yeah and yeah. But you can see, like, he, yeah, it's, um, we'll, we'll get into it more and again, still fuck this guy, but
Unknown Speaker 40:40
yeah, it's there's still just,
Speaker 3 40:43
you can see little, little, tiny bits of humanity kind of pull through them every once in a while. And it's just like bro. And in the clip that we just listened to, I couldn't find this recording again. I think this was, like part of a larger video I had watched, and I just can't find it. But a little bit after that, I don't know, like, if it's right after what I showed you cut off for 20 minutes or what, but I recall the chick being like, or violet being like, Oh, I think it like, went through my cheek and like, you know, she's kind of, like, pokes at it a little bit, and then just like, he's just kind of, you know, paying attention to chat, not really listening and stuff.
Speaker 1 41:36
Yeah, that's my smallest cat's name, so it's extra sad.
Speaker 3 41:43
Oh yeah, don't let the don't let her start cat maxing. Oh, I say we started saying that Aerith and job will cute.
Unknown Speaker 41:52
Max they're always cute.
Speaker 3 41:55
Maxing. He has also injected another woman on stream, I say woman. This last person was a girl, because she was 17. This woman is older, so yeah, he injected her with fat, dissolving acid on stream, I could not find that, but lots of I saw, like, pictures and articles about it and stuff. I can only assume there was some, like, meth mixed in there, just based off of what we've heard so far.
Speaker 1 42:33
Oh, quick question, do you know if the myth is like straight myth, or if it's like, some kind of, like Adderall, or like, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 42:44
Like, yeah, so I don't know. I know for sure he does Adderall and he likes to talk very, like, scientifically about stuff. I don't know if he's accurate in his scientific stuff, okay, but the way he does that make me, makes me think that it is meth and Adderall, like, two different,
Unknown Speaker 43:05
oh my god, two different
Speaker 3 43:07
things for him, just based off of how I've heard him talk,
Speaker 1 43:11
I want to be a fly on the wall and, like, watch him go purchase meth for himself. Oh my god. Like I got true little catalytic converters. Looks Max better get here soon. I gotta go,
Speaker 3 43:24
well, he's probably in some form of, like, whitewashed, like we're gonna do yoga after we shoot up. Man, oh God. And also, I don't really know. I'm not familiar with, like, peptides and stuff, so I don't know, like, quite What kind of drugs those are, but I know, like, hit, like, the influencer sphere, like crazy lately, and I think you even showed was it a lady advertising peptides that her daughter's clothes burned or whatever, and she wanted to get the news? I feel
Unknown Speaker 43:59
like that was a protein powder.
Speaker 3 44:00
Protein Powder. Oh, okay, okay, okay. It must have been another thing I watched then that was just talking about, like, those types of same tiktoker Mommy people doing this with peptides, and being like, yeah, it's easy. You just, here's my cute little peptide pack, and it's like, all bedazzle and shit. Oh, my God, again. I'm not familiar with what that is. It sounds like people are taking them when they don't need to. I don't know what they're you know exactly what their medical purpose is, but it seems like people are taking them when they don't need to and abusing them. So around this time too, Clav does that interview with Michael moles on the daily for the daily wire, which is some of the clips we listened to earlier with the spiritual magazine and stuff. Things really started to rev up for class reputation when he hit someone with a site with his cyber truck on Christmas Eve two. 1025 while streaming it live. God, being alive
Speaker 1 45:04
right now. Fucking blows, yeah, headlines like that, yeah. And, I mean,
Speaker 3 45:09
he's definitely not the first streamer to hit someone with a car while live streaming. Like, sadly, there was one dude that died, and the chick like, yeah, she's fucking obviously slammed for it and stuff,
Speaker 1 45:23
but I thought Teslas were supposed to keep you from doing that dumb ass shit.
Speaker 3 45:27
That's true. I don't know. Well, I assume cyber trucks have the same thing. It's just the software. I mean, I don't know why you would not make them drive, but maybe
Speaker 1 45:37
they were ugly. And Elon is in on the looks maxing too. He's like, no, they're ugly. Run them over.
Speaker 3 45:43
Well, you know, they probably don't have the safety built in like that. Because I remember when the truck, the trunk closed and it like broke that guy's fingers. I mean, they're probably not even thinking about like people in front of the car. Yeah, I don't care, um, but just to kind of describe what went down, a man was allegedly stalking him and had thrown a red liquid on him earlier, a mystery liquid, which, okay, if someone was stalking me and then threw an unknown liquid at me, I'd be super pissed off. Yeah, as klav is driving through what appears to be a parking lot a man I think, okay, sorry, I'm trying to be like so specific with how the video went down. I can't remember if he was filming before he jumped on the hood of the car, or if he jumped on and then started filming. But man gets on hood of car with camera slamming on window, yelling at clavicular there. You see no other people in the car. There's, there's a girl in there that's like, freaking out. Girl, woman, I don't know her age, um, and one of the passengers encourages him to start driving so Cloud hits the gas, drive max. And so, yeah, he wait. Sorry, I'm trying to remember what that was. That was a dog, right? What's up? Drive Max, is that the Grinch?
Speaker 1 47:18
Oh, actually, I was just thinking, like drive maxing.
Speaker 3 47:22
That might not even be a quote from, from any anything sounds right? Sounds like it could be in the Grinch drew carries the Grinch, of course. Um, so yeah, he decided to drive Max and hit this guy. So so at the angle you see from the inside of the car, he it just looks like he goes fucking, like, under and but there's no like fault, like they ran over him. Oh, but it kind of looks like they did, yeah, I saw a quick clip like afterwards, where the guy's, like, laying on the ground, and, I mean, he's breathing, I can't remember how, like, oh gosh, much he was maybe, like, struggling to breathe. But there was like a video, you know, he does social media stuff too. So there was like videos of him up with, you know, the following week, just, you know, totally fine doing stuff. And so, yeah, here's just a clip of that where you can listen, kind of listen to it unfold. It Oh,
Speaker 3 48:50
my God. Is he dead? Hopefully. So, yeah, that's another reason. Obviously, people are like, Fuck you because of his attitude after that. Yeah, I mean, to be fair, if I was being stalked, harassed, having liquid at me, someone jumping on my car, I would probably also drive away, yeah? Or wish they were dead. I don't know if I would wish there were, well, I don't know, depends on what liquid they threw on me, yeah. But so, I mean, that's kind of, I feel like, I'm not saying like it was right. He hit that guy. The security there said he did the right thing, so maybe he didn't do the right thing, but it definitely turned into a big thing of like, cloud hit man with car, or ran over man with cyber truck and things like that.
Unknown Speaker 49:47
Killer, manslaughter maxing.
Speaker 3 49:51
Manslaughter maxing. Uh, so, yeah, he, um, he did that. Had a guy with his car. Later, he posts on Twitter slash x, play stupid games, win stupid prizes. And it is a a just an AI picture of him running a guy over, and the guy under the tire with like, Justin Bieber, to be honest. So yeah, he did that, which was also kind of Trump vibes, yeah, yeah, no, yeah, it is. It's like, Yeah, I'll run you over, which I mean, to be fair. I mean, this is a different situation, I guess. But when I see those videos of like someone driving to, like, get on a highway or something, and then a bunch of dudes get out to, like, the car, and they just hit the gas. I'm like, Yeah, I know this is, you know, like, different, but maybe it's not different. I don't know. My brain's all fucked up on fucking listening to this guy talk for
Unknown Speaker 51:01
quite a long time.
Unknown Speaker 51:03
Oh my gosh, I bet damn
Speaker 3 51:08
so again, with me trying to be very specific on details, I'm not sure if Aiden Ross calls him, or if he calls Aiden Ross, but he's Aiden. Ross is streaming. This also a big fucking shithead that, oh, okay, we hate him. Just FYI. So, yeah, he was streaming, and he's on the phone with Clav, and he's like, oh, yeah, you know, you can use my lawyer, you know, giving him advice and stuff. And he's like, Well, you know, my lawyers are Jewish, so you're lucky, because they don't work on or they work on Christmas, and, you know, they don't take Christmas off, because this was Christmas Eve, so, oh, God, so yeah, and I might bring it up later, but yeah, nothing ever has come Out of this investigation. I don't know if, like, basically, maybe neither of them decided to press charges, because they would both probably have charges given to them. So they're probably like, it's just a wash. And with that, this episode is a wash for now, because that concludes 2025 of or up to 2025 and then we'll be covering, you know, the next year gonna be 2026 Yeah. So this year, so January to now will be
Speaker 1 52:36
Bob maxin, oh, my God, this is fucking nuts. Yeah, it's actually crazy, way crazier than I thought.
Speaker 3 52:43
Oh, really good. I'm like, delivering. I'm just like, because I was like reading it so much, I'm just like, is this gonna be interesting or just like, the
Speaker 1 52:52
only thing I really knew about was, like, the bone smashing, not from him, but I saw some other, like, douches doing it. And I think the only Clav clip that I saw was him talking about tiptoe maxing,
Speaker 3 53:07
which I'm sure you'll get, yes, yes, yeah. I have a clip of that one too. That shit is so embarrassing funny. And I got, there's a short clip, and then there's one that's like, kind of extended where, like, the host is, like laughing and stuff. So I just, yeah, I love it. Um, but yeah, we will have a clip of that and more on the next episode, baby. Yeah. Check out the Instagram for some pictures. Follow us wherever you're listening. Comment LIKE, SUBSCRIBE. Love Maxus. Yeah, pod. Max Listen, Max us. I don't want to overdo the
Unknown Speaker 53:48
I've just Max maxing, perhaps
Speaker 3 53:51
maxing my brain. My brain's just been like simmering in this little pot of vocabulary. And, yeah, anyway,
Unknown Speaker 54:03
um, till then.