Can you feel the love!?? CAN YOU?!?! We have a couple listener stories and some updates on our favorite pick-up artists.
Can you feel the love!?? CAN YOU?!?! We have a couple listener stories and some updates on our favorite pick-up artists.
Speaker 1 0:00
Did I ever tell you about the time that I went to my friend's mom's wedding? So we were like adults, and, you know, so her mom was older, and we asked that they play, uh, what's that Rocky Horror Picture Show song? Oh, the time warp. Yeah, the time warp. And so we were out on the dance floor doing it, and when we did a jump to the left, I totally, I don't think I took her out, but I bumped, I bumped into the groom's mom.
Speaker 1 0:55
I just remember people just kind of going to like, you know, I guess, keep her from falling. It's a blurry memory. I blocked it out because I was so embarrassed.
Speaker 3 1:06
That's something I would do, yeah, always just flailing about But
Speaker 1 1:13
speaking of marriage, marriage is about love, and this is like a Valentine's Day episode. It is on nervous laughter Podcast. I'm Alyssa and I'm Jamie. We're having a weird day. So yep, sorry if we're off. I guess I'll just say I've just been going through some files. Y'all know what files and I am just through the roof and my entire inside is on fire. Yeah,
Speaker 3 1:53
yeah, you don't think this is bad. Just know you're the scum of the earth and fuck you. Turn this off right now.
Speaker 1 2:02
Yeah, never in my life did I think this would be a controversial topic. Yet, here we are. Here we are in hell. It's awesome. And I'll just say the official nervous laughter podcast stance is that we are 100% against PDF files. Yes, so wild to say that I know I have a zero tolerance policy so you
Unknown Speaker 2:28
yes
Speaker 1 2:31
anyway, that was just kind of to explain why we might be off this episode.
Unknown Speaker 2:38
But back to love.
Speaker 3 2:43
Yeah, I just love being alive. I love the country we live in. There's just a lot of love around right now. It's great
Unknown Speaker 2:54
spreading the love.
Speaker 3 2:57
Oh, oops, oh. Actually, we do love getting listener submissions. That is one thing we can genuinely say we love, yeah,
Speaker 1 3:05
and I guess I'll say that's another official stance of nervous laughter podcast, is we love getting listener submissions.
Unknown Speaker 3:12
Yes, yes, we do.
Speaker 1 3:19
Let's say I'm so excited. This is from DRock, who's on friend of the phone, Nightmare signal
Unknown Speaker 3:27
podcast, yes, with Alyssa.
Speaker 3 3:32
I haven't read either these. I saw that he sent like a thing, a text, and I was like, Is it okay if we read this, or is this just for us? And he said we could read it.
Speaker 1 3:41
Oh okay, yeah. Whenever I saw like, you guys kind of have a response. I was like, I'm not gonna read it. Oh yeah, because I guess she did. And I Yeah, leave it for surprise, but cool.
Speaker 3 3:52
And he says, okay, so I have two Valentine's Day stories. Neither are cringey, but one is sad and the other one is just embarrassing. I want to start off with saying, I absolutely hated valentine's day in school. Same, yeah, weird. Give all your classmates Valentine's,
Speaker 1 4:11
and then when you're in high school, they're like, buy a flower for asylum. And then, like, you don't get fucking anything, yeah? And it's like, cool, cool. I love flowers. Yeah, thanks.
Speaker 3 4:24
Our first. My first story is our school was doing these candy gram things. So what exactly it is, and
Speaker 1 4:31
we went to the same school, so it was the exact same thing, and
Unknown Speaker 4:35
when it came to to the
Speaker 3 4:38
day to deliver them in class, my entire class got one except for me. Oh no. I just wanted, more than anything, to disappear in that moment. Oh no,
Speaker 1 4:48
I totally feel you on that. DRock, I had those same experiences. Did your high school do, or any school do anything like that?
Speaker 3 4:56
I think we did roses. I definitely never got. One. Honestly, I don't remember that much of high school, so I couldn't tell you, it's blocked out in a deep cavern.
Speaker 1 5:13
And I'm trying to remember, I think the candy grams, if I remember, right, it was just like a heart sucker with
Speaker 3 5:20
a note that actually sounds kind of familiar. Maybe they did that in March too.
Speaker 1 5:24
And then I think they also did like carnations. Maybe this wasn't for Valentine's Day. Maybe it was something else, but I remember them, them doing like carnations too. But yeah, yeah, of course I didn't get any,
Unknown Speaker 5:36
because none
Unknown Speaker 5:37
for you. JB
Speaker 1 5:38
Thompson and my, of course, my secret boyfriend couldn't buy me one because he was my secret boyfriend. Was that the Mormon? No, that was Jehovah's Jehovah's Witness same weird ass shit.
Speaker 3 5:52
We don't love it, that shit. That's another official dance.
Speaker 1 5:55
But with my Jehovah's Witness boyfriend, we were planning to go to just, like, celebrate Valentine's together. Like, have dinner. I think it was just like, go to Chili's and go to the movies. And I was really excited, because I could never do that with my secret boyfriend. Like, finally, and then his parents were like, it's Valentine's Day. You cannot go out on a holiday and, like, celebrate the holiday, so we had to, like, reschedule it to a different day.
Unknown Speaker 6:27
Valentine's Day is a family holiday.
Speaker 1 6:30
Well, no, because Jehovah's Witnesses don't they're a hard no on any holiday, okay? Because it's like, celebrating something that's not, yeah,
Speaker 3 6:40
I was thinking that the Jehovah one was the secret boyfriend, but he was the non secret boyfriend,
Speaker 1 6:46
ah, yeah, he was my non secret boyfriend, and then, yeah, my secret boy, piece of shit, whatever boyfriend that's like, that's a tunnel cave that I took away, that I don't visit often.
Unknown Speaker 6:57
Well, hopefully he's dead now, anyway, we're on fire.
Unknown Speaker 7:05
People are gonna be like, Man. PMS, I
Speaker 3 7:09
know you should be this fucking upset, too, and if you're not, maybe you're the problem
Speaker 1 7:15
people getting away with not only illegal shit, but just being terrible, awful human
Unknown Speaker 7:19
beings. Yeah, don't.
Unknown Speaker 7:22
Don't do that. Yeah, get your shit together. It
Unknown Speaker 7:28
feels weird to just go back to reading my story.
Speaker 1 7:30
Now, anyway, if this is a different story, do you want me to read it? Or, Oh, sure.
Unknown Speaker 7:35
Okay, cool. Let me open. Okay.
Speaker 1 7:39
So for DR, second story. Um, he says my other story is another school one. When we year we were doing the flowers. Oh, okay, so, yeah, okay. So one with the candy, one with the flowers. I guess it was just different years. Um, and you could anonymously send one to someone. So I sent one to this girl. I had a massive crush on but I didn't have the guts to talk, and somehow everyone knew it was from from me, and called, called me out in class, and everyone started laughing
Unknown Speaker 8:12
so much. That's like, so So
Speaker 1 8:14
mean is me? Like, Haha, you have a crush on this girl.
Unknown Speaker 8:18
It's like, dude, let's
Speaker 3 8:22
do Yeah, I guess they hate love too. Yeah. Like, what have you hate love when you're a child, it makes sense to hate love because the world has hardened you.
Speaker 1 8:33
Yeah? Makes fun of someone for, like, buying someone a little Valentine's thing that's stupid. I mean, I get it. Kids are mean, yeah, kids are ruthless.
Unknown Speaker 8:47
But like, man, that's cold,
Unknown Speaker 8:52
dude. That makes me
Speaker 3 8:54
remember something that happened to me. I think it was in fifth grade.
Unknown Speaker 8:58
Oh, this sorry.
Speaker 3 9:12
There was a popular boy, and one day at recess, he asked me out. And I remember thinking in my head, I was this is when everything changes for me. My life is just like it's going up. My life starts now, now on this playground.
Speaker 1 9:35
I'm not meaning this in a mean way, and I know that you won't, you probably won't take it this way, but for the listeners and stuff. This almost feels the equivalent
Unknown Speaker 9:42
of like my like,
Unknown Speaker 9:43
I should have been on for 30
Speaker 1 9:47
Yeah, like, this is the start of my life.
Speaker 3 9:51
Fucking idiot. I'm being successful starting now. I'm successful at Boys, yeah, I'm gonna be on. On, like, the most popular girl ever cover a magazine that's gonna be my magazine.
Speaker 1 10:06
Oh, man, I remember I had a crush on this one kid, and maybe I just kind of like, wouldn't leave him alone about it. Oh, a little bit, but I don't remember being like, aggressively annoying or anything about it. I think I just, like, maybe wrote him a couple notes in class and just like, called him once, um, but then, like, his sister started to, like, call me back. And then she was like, calling me stuff, like, crab eyes and everything. And I was just like, crab eyes. I was like, What's crab eyes? But it's, I guess it's just like an insult to someone's nipples, if they are looking different ways or something. And I'm like, What 12, you fucking idiot, are probably younger, because I was in elementary school. But like, never heard of that. I never heard that either. Um, I think it just kind of stuck with me. And then eventually it made sense. I was like, Oh, wait, why was she saying that to a literal
Unknown Speaker 11:01
child like
Speaker 3 11:04
man, she may be an Epstein file. Who knows?
Speaker 1 11:07
Maybe, maybe I dodged, I must have dodged a bullet at fucking darn Elementary School. Man dodged a lot of bullets at my school. DRock could tell you some horror stories about our high school.
Unknown Speaker 11:22
Terrifying. Um,
Speaker 3 11:25
yeah, oh yeah, the popular boy was like, JK, I don't want to go out with you. Just to wrap up
Speaker 1 11:32
this, I Yeah, did he, like, do it in
Speaker 3 11:35
front of people or just like, What do you think? Okay, I was just like, anyone wants to make fun of my friend Alyssa, they're gonna get beat up. Actually, I put a picture in the discord a while back because I well, actually, this may have been a different guy, but I looked up like one of these guys, and there was a picture of him in a picture with someone doing black face,
Unknown Speaker 12:06
like, where do you work? Bitch?
Speaker 1 12:13
Okay, we are in 2026, people, and these are still controversial topics. I don't know what the fuck is
Speaker 3 12:18
going through your old ghosts. I mean, I'm not saying anybody's perfect, but I mean, that's one that you're like, that's an obvious delete, yeah?
Speaker 1 12:28
I mean, maybe if he was like a child, like, you know it was, it would look like a college party. Yeah?
Unknown Speaker 12:34
Okay, let's No, yeah. I
Speaker 3 12:36
mean, and I'm not saying deleting it is enough, but obviously, read a fucking book, but if you have a picture with someone in black face, like you don't know how to read. So I feel like, if you're
Speaker 1 12:47
doing that as an adult, you're just trying to piss people off and pick fights, yeah? Like, for sure, that's just it. And if you get punched, I mean, hey, hey, hey,
Unknown Speaker 13:01
don't be a racist.
Speaker 3 13:02
Yeah, hope you die from that punch. Yeah, anyway, anyway, on a couple people so far. So
Speaker 1 13:11
I'm trying to think if there's any other like, sad childhood, innocent crushes I had that just got crushed.
Unknown Speaker 13:21
I feel like,
Speaker 3 13:25
well, I had just miscellaneous things where it'd be like, I'm gonna work up the courage to tell this boy I like him and just be like, You're a good friend. I was like, oh, it's because I'm fat. Maybe not. Maybe I don't want to sound like an INCEL and be like, Jay, put me in the front.
Unknown Speaker 13:49
Now you sound like all these other guys.
Speaker 1 13:51
Yeah, yeah. I've been watching some like, uh, I don't know, just some different like, date videos and stuff, and it's just,
Unknown Speaker 14:02
oh man, they're just like, you
Speaker 1 14:03
seem like a really, like, great person, and like you're you'll make someone else way happy. But it's just, you know, you're just not, just not. It's like,
Speaker 3 14:13
just say you don't like them, yeah, just think we're compatible, whatever.
Speaker 1 14:18
Don't be like, you're great, you're wonderful. Everything about you is fantastic, but that's for someone else. It's a problem with me, yeah, but I just don't want how
Speaker 3 14:28
wonderful you are, yeah, exactly. But you know what DRock, we want how wonderful you are in friendship form. So thanks for being a friend. Yeah And
Speaker 1 14:40
sorry, we kind of derailed off your stories a little bit. We gave our own. And, yeah, you know, tied it in. We support you, um, and I'll if I could, I, if I would have known about that when we were in school, I would have went into that classroom and I would have, I. Beat those kids up Yes, and now you have a lovely family that will send you carnations, maybe not actually, but symbolically, yes, lovingly, yes, way better than any fucking high school bullshit. Yes. School sucks. School does? School sucks? Um,
Speaker 3 15:32
I guess we can talk about some other dudes that suck. Yeah, that sounds perfect.
Unknown Speaker 15:39
Sounds great.
Speaker 2 15:41
Everything's Help me please.
Unknown Speaker 15:51
Oh, man, so
Unknown Speaker 15:53
like way early episodes
Speaker 3 15:58
you found mystery and the Baxter, who are pickup artists. So way back then, I think we were, like, talking about maybe taking one of their courses, or I had signed up to, like, find out how much it cost, or something. Well, recently I started getting these weird emails, and it was like, stuff about, like, attraction and different things. And I was like, I don't want to open this. This looks like spam. This will get me in some kind of file, yeah, like, what the fuck is this? But I did end up opening one, and I happened to go to the bottom to unsubscribe, and then I was like, Oh, it's from mystery and the Baxter, like, after like, multiple years, somehow I started getting emails again. Maybe they took a break, I don't know. Maybe we'll find out on the website,
Speaker 1 16:55
yeah, well, whenever I look the maybe I should have, like, checked if they did take, like, an interim or anything. But, yeah, no, they're still active.
Speaker 3 17:04
So I have a couple emails that I can quickly read.
Speaker 1 17:10
For some reason I feel like it's gonna be like a high school, you know, like when somebody new from high school reaches out about MLM,
Speaker 3 17:18
have you been so there's actually one that I thought was kind of cute
Unknown Speaker 17:29
because it was dorky. Okay, I think it's
Speaker 3 17:34
I'll save that one for last, okay, the other ones might make us mad, so I'll leave a positive one. I mean, we're already,
Speaker 1 17:48
oh yeah, I forgot this episode. It's about love, about love, yeah, love, I don't love
Unknown Speaker 18:01
why your mood is contagious.
Speaker 3 18:05
Sorry, guys like Sorry.
Unknown Speaker 18:10
I hope you're having a better day.
Unknown Speaker 18:17
That's the subject of the email.
Speaker 3 18:20
It says, ever been in a group where one person's laugh lit up the whole table, or on the flip side, where one grumpy face killed the mood instantly he got too grumpy? That's the power of vibe. It spreads faster than words, and it dictates whether people want to be around you. So mystery says, and it literally says there's like a mystery says, and like a Baxter says, so they each gives their little perspective.
Unknown Speaker 18:55
I don't know why that sounds cute. Your turn.
Speaker 3 19:01
Yeah, this has, like, very clear bullet points. Maybe they're assuming that their reader base of guys using pickup artists, don't have a very high reading level. So they're like, We gotta, like, gotta, I don't have
Unknown Speaker 19:15
timely to the point, yeah, man,
Unknown Speaker 19:18
stuff and business to do. I
Unknown Speaker 19:23
man stuff. So mystery says
Speaker 3 19:27
vibe is the social exchange of emotion. We are able to feel other people's emotions as we interact with them again. Sorry, everyone,
Unknown Speaker 19:37
yeah, sorry, our vibes are
Unknown Speaker 19:40
feel it.
Speaker 3 19:43
Oh, and this one you might like, since you're a computer person, Bextra adds your vibe is like Wi Fi. Everybody nearby logs on. If yours is glitchy or flat, people disconnect if it's strong and buzz. Thing she can't help but tune in
Speaker 1 20:05
and don't forget to wear a VPN when you go in there.
Speaker 3 20:13
So then it's like, where men slip up and then how to land it. And I'm like, basically they're just like, just be don't be needy, don't be anxious. Just like, put out a good vibe. That's basically what the whole email says. So I'm like, Okay,
Unknown Speaker 20:34
thank you for your help. Again. It's
Speaker 1 20:36
funny to me that they use bullet points to kind of like, get straight to the point, but it's also like, they don't need to say that much stuff about just sending out a good vibe. Yeah, like they made it too wordy, but tried to make it
Speaker 3 20:49
not look exactly, I don't know, way longer than it needs to be. So this one I felt like was a little bit insulting. The subject is why logic won't win her over.
Speaker 1 21:13
I know logic, but not winning some people over right now, but yeah, I'm just a stupid woman.
Speaker 3 21:18
A lot of people don't believe in logic these guys do.
Unknown Speaker 21:24
And what do they have to say? Alyssa,
Unknown Speaker 21:27
they have to say,
Unknown Speaker 21:32
you've probably had
Speaker 3 21:34
this thought, if she could just see how much we have in common, she'd like me. But reality rarely matches that fantasy. Instead, she laughs at some guy's dumb joke and follows him outside. Well, you're left with all the logical reasons why you should have been her choice.
Speaker 1 21:55
So he's just explaining jealousy without trying to say he's jealous.
Speaker 3 22:00
It's like a mansplaining, like, why you should like me?
Speaker 1 22:07
Oh, I'm sorry. Do you mind if I reject for a second? So I watch some what is it? Proximity chat sometimes, which is just like that guy that goes into uh, just guy that goes into, like, VR chat, and he'll just listen to just different people's conversations and stuff. So, like, yeah, typically he, he just, you know, he, he might talk to them, but he's not, like engaging them. He's just sitting there listening pretty much. And I want to do that now, yeah, well, one guy just, like, just started going off about all of this shit, and he was like, he basically, it sounded like he, like, destroyed all his relationships on, like, the server or whatever, and people just, like, didn't want to be around him. And then he just kept going off and yelling. And he was like, I'm the nicest guy you will ever meet.
Unknown Speaker 23:02
What when you were saying this, reminded
Unknown Speaker 23:04
me of that. It's just like if you have to yell that at somebody.
Speaker 3 23:09
That reminds me of this video I saw on Instagram. It was this guy going around with a microphone interviewing people. He goes up to this guy, and he was like, oh gosh. How did he phrase it? He was like, Are you happy with how tall you are or something? And the guy was like, first of all, bro, I'm taller than you. Everybody in the comments was like, that's the loudest no I've ever heard in my life. If you have to be mad about someone asking you that,
Speaker 1 23:44
did you ever see that one? I think they were, like, on a beach in this guy was, like, asking this chick out, and she, like, turned him down. Or he was like, Oh, do you think my muscles are attractive? And she was like, No. And then he just flips out. And he just starts talking about, like, his dead kid and shit. Yeah. Oh my god.
Speaker 3 24:05
Therapy is really important. Everybody. Yes, it is, yeah, if you can. I mean, it's expensive, but if you have the means, do it, yeah,
Speaker 1 24:13
if you don't want to fucking embarrass yourself and be a dick hole. Oh, yeah.
Speaker 3 24:19
So about why logic won't win her over. Mystery says human behavior is only partially rational, to a degree human behavior is emotional. And then Baxter is the one that's insulting in this one, he says you can't argue a woman into attraction. She's not a court case to be won over with logic, but that's good. Yeah, if she feels it, she stays. If she doesn't, no list of shared hobbies is going to change that actually, no, that's good. Maybe I'm mixing it up with something else, I guess, where he was offensive.
Unknown Speaker 24:58
So they're talking about.
Speaker 1 25:01
How, how men slip up is like,
Speaker 3 25:06
I don't know, thinking about it logically. How to land it. Learn to trigger emotional states, curiosity, tension, laughter, excitement, the man who shifts her feelings, wins her attention. Once emotions are sparked, logic follows so they like, you have to make her happy then she can be logical.
Speaker 1 25:31
It was weird because I was like, where is the line of manipulation?
Unknown Speaker 25:37
Yeah, yeah. That was a
Unknown Speaker 25:42
little this
Speaker 3 25:48
one, I'm just gonna summarize it real quick, and then we can go to the funny one, because I'm like, I'm kind of over these dudes. Well, the emails. Anyway, the title is, why women Chase why women Chase men other women already want. So basically, they're talking about, like, Oh, if, like, a guy walks into a bar with like, two women, then all the women are like, Oh, what's his deal? Yeah, I don't understand that well, they can explain it to you. Oh, okay, explain explain it. Maybe I'll start doing that now.
Unknown Speaker 26:28
So Baxter
Speaker 3 26:31
is saying she's not thinking about it logically. It's instinct. If our other women already gave you the stamp of approval, her emotions shortcut that process. You become the safer bet, the guy worth noticing. So they're talking a lot about a lot about logic and emotions and using them in different ways.
Speaker 1 26:57
That's kind of funny, because they're like, she'll date you because she passed the logic check with these other women, but she doesn't think logically.
Unknown Speaker 27:05
It's just an impulse,
Unknown Speaker 27:07
oh no, that's kind of
Speaker 3 27:12
so how to combat that? That though, create social proof naturally roll in with female friends, chat casually with other women without trying to pull them, let women see women enjoying your company. That's all it takes for pre selection to trigger like so you're gonna have like women as props.
Speaker 1 27:39
Day you're like, hey, laughter, joke, she's gonna come over here. She's coming. Yeah, yeah, um, I don't know. That just seems like really weird logic to me. Yeah. Like, oh, he arrived with another girl. Let me get in moment, which makes me wonder, like, I don't know, do they just think like, any girl that's like with another guy is just fair game? Like, is that how they think of it too? Like, it just doesn't mean anything if you're like,
Speaker 3 28:16
the whole concept of like, pickup artist stuff is just insane to me. I mean, I get that some people, I mean, I'm saying some people me, like me, some people have a hard time socializing and maybe understanding certain social cues. But a lot of the pickup artist stuff just feels like you said manipulative, kind of creepy, yeah, some of it can come off kind of weird, yeah, like on the website, they had a short video. They were on some BBC show just, it was just, like a very brief, like, two minute kind of thing where a guy just went to check it out.
Speaker 1 29:00
And, yeah, they were like, on the streets of, uh, of London or whatever. And the reporter came to, I guess, try it out. And so he just had him. He was like, Uh, fuck. What was the
Unknown Speaker 29:11
thing he told him to tell a woman?
Speaker 1 29:15
It was like, tell them that, like you think their hair is really pretty, or no shoes like you have the second best shoes I've seen today, and then she's supposed to say, Oh, what are the first best? And then you say, Oh, they're mine. So you see him trying to, like, kind of chase after women, like, Oh, I like your shoes. But then he finally gets one, a number from one girl, because he's like, Oh, I like your hair. And then she actually stopped to talk to him and then gave
Unknown Speaker 29:41
him her number. But, I mean, like,
Speaker 1 29:46
I don't know, maybe, maybe I'm just, like, very much, not a social person,
Unknown Speaker 29:52
but, uh, don't do that.
Speaker 3 29:56
I don't know. Just don't. It feels weird to have a strategy. Strategy. I mean, like, if you like someone's hair or whatever, yeah, tell them. But like, you're gonna
Unknown Speaker 30:07
use an agenda fucking weird, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 30:11
Cuz, like, yeah, if you just walk by someone like, oh, cool shoes or Oh, I like your hair, whatever, that's different. That's different. But just trying to, like, I don't know, it feels very sales money. I was just
Speaker 3 30:22
gonna say it's like a high pressure sales tax, yeah, it's just like, oh, I gave you a compliment. Now you have to, like, acknowledge me. Or like, you're gonna feel like you have to give me one back.
Speaker 1 30:32
Yeah? And it's, I don't know, I guess, just to be like, it's always sunny. It's the implication,
Unknown Speaker 30:41
Oh, yeah.
Speaker 1 30:42
It's just so weird to just see people put it out as like a playbook, and it's just weird, like, and I know that some people do this to try to kind of like, learn social skills, but I don't think Pickup Artists teach you the proper social skills to just be socialed and talk to people. Yeah, the opposite sex, yeah, it's
Speaker 3 31:06
I'm all for people working on social skills or whatever. I mean, I've been trying to do that lately. Like, if I'm in public, like, not being on my phone, because I'm like, Oh, I could, like, chat with somebody or something, like shit like that.
Speaker 1 31:18
And in public I'm on my phone because I'm like, Oh, I might have to chat with somebody.
Speaker 3 31:24
Well, am I just kidding? I'm a fool. And I'm like, well, maybe I could have a nice conversation, which is, like, today is proven, no, everybody sucks, yeah, but, you know? But like, when this pickup artist stuff, it's like, Oh, I'm gonna not be on my phone so I can snag a lady because I need a lady, you know
Unknown Speaker 31:43
it's like, because I need to get my dick wet.
Unknown Speaker 31:48
Yeah, yeah. So the one that
Speaker 3 31:53
actually didn't make me mad, they had an email. This is the last one. It's called why she can't stop looking at you. And basically it's talking about how you need to look snappy.
Speaker 1 32:10
I was like, I don't know. I It's hard to look away from a car wreck too.
Speaker 3 32:17
So where men slip up, they show up invisible. Same, plain clothes, same.
Speaker 1 32:24
I don't like that where men show up, they show up invisible.
Speaker 3 32:29
Oh yeah, that's I don't like. There's definitely gonna be crimes. If men can be invisible, would be the downfall of everything. I'll just say
Unknown Speaker 32:39
I'm misinterpreting what they're trying to convey here.
Speaker 3 32:44
So I guess what they're saying is like you're wearing boring clothes, you have boring body language, and you're not being exciting.
Speaker 1 32:52
Oh, okay, because they're not, you know, pee pee talking like first angel, exactly.
Speaker 3 32:58
So it says how to land it, use attention spikes, bold fashion choices, unique accessories, confident posture or a story that demands focus,
Speaker 1 33:09
I swear this is the same fucking advice they give in glamor magazines Like, wear a statement necklace,
Unknown Speaker 33:18
make com Like, holy
Speaker 1 33:23
they must just be, like, reading, like, what is it like, glamor, whatever, pop or, dude, I used to love magazines like that. Yeah, I never, like, got them, but if a friend had them, or, you know, I'd be like, Oh, I can do
Unknown Speaker 33:37
the quiz. Or, like,
Speaker 3 33:43
picking out, like, unique accessories, like you said, like Criss Angel, they have, like the different
Unknown Speaker 33:48
rings each other. Get dressed
Speaker 1 33:51
like they have, like a closet room, and they're just like, hey, come over for five cool. And then they just like,
Speaker 3 33:58
Dude, you look great. Yeah. Look at you
Speaker 1 34:01
try on different stuff together, and maybe they coordinate. Sometimes. That's so cute.
Unknown Speaker 34:07
Dude. Speaking of Criss Angel,
Speaker 3 34:11
on my birthday, we went and saw a show, and then it was kind of late, and we were like, Oh, we're gonna go eat somewhere. So I ended up going to Chili's, and they were, you know, the manager will come by and, like, sometimes be like, how's it going, or whatever. The manager of the Chili's over here is, like a combination, bam, majera, Margera, whatever, you know, I mean, BAM margarine and bam margarine and Criss Angel. But like, in the body of a Chili's manager, like he was wearing like all black, he had, like a black sport coat, and he had like, a bunch of eyeliner and stuff. I was like, Yeah, run this Chili's, bam. It was very elaborate. I. Minor too. I was like, this is a cool chili.
Speaker 1 35:03
They're like, manager of Chili's, what is he gonna do next? Whatever the fuck I want.
Unknown Speaker 35:13
He's like, jumping from boost to boost.
Speaker 1 35:17
Oh man, yeah. I watched Jackass the other night. So just like, pretty refreshed, or, you know, a little refreshed on on that, oh, when it was the unrated version that was in our DVDs, I think that was Brandon's, because I'm pretty sure I don't remember the amount of throw up. And also, when they put, like, the shrimp in their underwear, or whatever. They show, yeah, they're like, out on a boat, and they go swimming with whale sharks. And they like, like, have these, oh, like, net shorts on filled with shrimp or krill, and, um, yeah, they they show them before the stuff was put in there so you can see their dicks. And I told Brian, I was like, I would have definitely remembered some Johnny knoxvilles dick. Yeah, no, it was Steve O and the other guy from wild boys. I was like, I would have remembered some fucking dick, like seeing it for the first time in a movie. Yeah, I would have remembered that definitely know.
Unknown Speaker 36:23
And speaking of Chris Angel,
Speaker 1 36:28
I unfortunately can't really like show anything of it, because I didn't like screen record it. But there was a video he posted on Instagram of him in a bubble bath, and I can't remember what he was saying, because I was like, Oh, this is great. I'll show this on the podcast, but it was deleted, and I was like, shit, am I just like, not remember, like, what am I thinking? Yeah, but there's this chick I follow. I can't remember her name, but she makes like, Criss Angel parody videos, like, I'm making Criss Angel videos, until Chris Angel, like, acknowledges me or whatever. And she did one, and I was like, Dude. Video, like, like, why they take it down? She's like, I don't know, but like, I was like, okay, cool. This was, this is a real thing, and hopefully I can find it and share it with you guys one day. Because I was like, damn, this is awesome, because I did not send it to you. So, yeah,
Unknown Speaker 37:29
I imagine the bubbles being black.
Unknown Speaker 37:31
Oh, that would have been dope, but they were not.
Speaker 1 37:36
But, you know, he had all his, like, rings and shit on, and I'm trying, I think he had his boots on as well, if I remember correctly. So, you know, just making your boots in the bathtub
Unknown Speaker 37:48
behavior. Maybe he goes to like a like,
Unknown Speaker 37:55
you know, like
Speaker 1 37:56
fashion sessions with with mystery and the Baxter. Sometimes, maybe that would make sense. I feel like the bikesters fashion style is so different from mystery, though. Like, if I remember, right, he's not, yeah, that's right, yeah. He's more like americwai hats, yeah, fuzzy, yeah.
Unknown Speaker 38:18
Those guys,
Unknown Speaker 38:21
well, they are
Unknown Speaker 38:24
actually like all over the world.
Unknown Speaker 38:27
Now, let me pop open to show you. I think,
Speaker 1 38:33
I think when we first covered them, they only had like one other, like country, but now they have, they've expanded it.
Unknown Speaker 38:48
They go to their tour dates.
Speaker 3 38:50
Oh, my God, would we see them on tour if they came here?
Speaker 1 38:54
Oh, my God, oh, unfortunately, because they're done with America, yeah, I'm getting it. We're going to Bali, Hong Kong, Finland, Warsaw, London, England, Toronto, Canada, Tokyo. Oh my gosh. World Tour options. You know
Speaker 3 39:17
what I just thought of? I wonder if some of their shit like wouldn't translate to other cultures, you know, where it would be, oh, right, yeah, like, rude or annoying to do something,
Speaker 1 39:29
yeah, because they're taking their like, American slash, yeah, British pickup artist style, entitlements, yeah. Like, are they gonna get arrested? Just like offending someone. It's a very good point. I don't really think about that.
Speaker 3 39:47
For some reason, when you said Tokyo, it made me think about it, because I was like, I feel like Japanese people are more like mellow and polite. Says like that translate. I feel like sometimes to.
Speaker 1 40:01
You if, if you're, if you're not from, like, some people might be kind of more willing to be like, Oh, it's just a, what's it called? Maybe that's just like a weird custom from their country. But they're actually just being a fucking creep. I think about that when I watch, like, 90 day fiance and stuff, I'm like, I think this person only had a chance with someone from another country because
Unknown Speaker 40:33
but the standard boot camp
Unknown Speaker 40:38
is two days and two nights.
Speaker 1 40:41
It features the evolution of a pickup artist, the five levels of game, the nine phases of the m3 model, which I don't know what m3 is to BMW. Yeah, that's what I was kind of thinking. I'm like, that's the only one I know.
Unknown Speaker 40:59
Look at us car girls,
Speaker 1 41:03
the five attraction switches, the five keys to pick up, pick up. Artist mastery,
Unknown Speaker 41:11
mystery 2.0 his new method,
Unknown Speaker 41:16
Baxter's supernatural game.
Unknown Speaker 41:19
What I want to know about that. Yeah, I
Speaker 1 41:21
don't know if you're like, picking up ghosts, ghosts, yeah, or using ghosts as your wingman.
Unknown Speaker 41:29
Like, okay, go in our house and she'll get scared and she'll
Speaker 1 41:34
call me intense training sessions, net and networking opportunities. So this standard edition will cost you only $4,997 Wow. But if that's not enough for you, there's the Master Boot Camp, oh, which is four days and three nights. And of course, it has all the features of standard plus advanced training sessions.
Unknown Speaker 42:09
And it says ink. I don't know
Speaker 1 42:10
if that means, if it's like advanced training sessions Incorporated, because that's what ink means, or if they mean like, included, including, quote, Hired Gun game,
Unknown Speaker 42:23
which I don't know if you're talking about picking up people just,
Speaker 1 42:30
just say, like a pickup artist game. Don't call it like Hired Gun game. I don't know, exclusive activities and challenges, lifestyle enhancement? Oh, maybe that's some of the clothes stuff makes me think of just like those smiling Bob commercials again, like for your male enhancement. Or, I guess, no, it wasn't male enhancement. It was to get boners. Yes, Avatar creation, which, um, okay, I don't really know what they mean by avatar creation, but as I was kind of looking around online a little bit, it's what I could piece together. It seems as though it is making like a AI, kind of version of yourself that you can then use as inspiration or something, I guess that is the most something
Unknown Speaker 43:33
heard and, um,
Speaker 1 43:37
I, I think it might be that, because When I went to the Baxter's Instagram, I did see a couple pictures that totally looked like he just gave him a picture of himself and was like, make me,
Unknown Speaker 43:47
you know, walking on a important looking
Unknown Speaker 43:51
street or something.
Speaker 1 43:54
So, so, yeah, I think that's what they mean by avatar, which like, you don't need
Unknown Speaker 43:59
someone's help
Unknown Speaker 44:02
to you know, you don't need
Unknown Speaker 44:03
to pay an exorbitant amount of money to have
Speaker 3 44:05
someone help you do that. Also, I like that you said important looking street should be the name of the episode.
Speaker 1 44:13
Like, what would his prompt say? Like, make me an important looking man on an important looking street with an important looking
Speaker 3 44:19
idea holding an important looking coffee, yeah,
Unknown Speaker 44:23
like, I don't
Speaker 1 44:27
know, but this the master class also offers the 33 Pickup Artists proficiencies and limited participations for even more focused attention. This will only cost you $9,997
Speaker 3 44:44
okay, but wait, there's more. Oh, man, if you really need help, yeah, you don't know how to talk to anyone,
Speaker 1 44:53
and this will get you half of another day and another night, four and a half days, four nights. It's, yeah, well, of course, it comes with some extras. I mean, you're not just paying $12,000
Unknown Speaker 45:09
990 or $12,997
Speaker 1 45:12
for this masterclass. Wow. Um, so it has all the features of the previous ones, plus live in experience akin to project Hollywood, which, when I looked that up, it was like, I think they called it like a quote, like, game house for the guys. So it was like, you know, like, how different influencers have their influencer house? This was their little, I mean,
Speaker 3 45:40
paying for this so they're gonna have enough guys to be in a house hanging out and like, the vibe they want, you know?
Speaker 1 45:47
Yeah, well, I guess even if it's just like mystery and badger like, but it's still like weird to me, like you're paying to be one of the guys. Oh, it also includes personal rooms for all participants, observe and interact with mystery and Baxter in a real life setting. Oh, yeah, so you're just like watching them hit on women. They're just trying to hang out and
Unknown Speaker 46:17
which, I guess, I
Speaker 1 46:18
I was assuming that they're involved in these other levels, but I guess I don't know what to which extent, if this one specifies observing
Speaker 3 46:27
and interacting with other guys that they've hired, yeah,
Unknown Speaker 46:31
consultants, yeah. Um,
Speaker 1 46:36
okay, you get three more things with this. You get the multiple women game, fetish club game, what,
Unknown Speaker 46:47
which is just like, is this just like, are
Speaker 1 46:50
you just, like, paying women at this point? Like, I don't get what that means, quite what that means, but, um, unless it's just a bunch of guys doing that together, um, extremely limited space for exclusivity, which I don't quite know what that means. I mean, they're saying
Unknown Speaker 47:17
limited space for exclusivity, so they're not exclusive,
Speaker 3 47:26
or maybe there's only a certain number of spots, so that it's like a tight knit little exclusive group.
Speaker 1 47:32
Oh, yeah, maybe, yeah, maybe, um, AI can help me figure out what this means. Oh, okay, yeah, yeah. I think, yeah. I think, yeah. I think it's like, along the lines of what you're saying regarding scarcity and marketing. Okay, so I just don't, I just didn't get what they're saying,
Unknown Speaker 47:50
scarcity, hurry. Well, it's hot.
Speaker 1 47:56
Um, so, yeah, that's, uh, those are the three different levels that um, our boys are offering.
Speaker 3 48:05
I should say, You know what I was thinking when you were talking I think maybe we talked about the levels last time, because I do remember talking about money. I wonder if we could do way back machine at some point and like, see how much inflation has affected
Unknown Speaker 48:24
these numbers, that'd be interesting.
Speaker 3 48:28
Yeah, I really don't remember. I mean, I know we talked about money, but I don't remember any numbers.
Unknown Speaker 48:34
Yeah, I think, yeah. I
Speaker 3 48:37
don't remember how much it cost, but yeah, I don't think it was nearly as much as actually, I guess we could just go back and listen to the episode, like, let me think of this complex way we can look it up. Yeah.
Speaker 1 48:49
What episode is that? Yeah, true. Maybe I have my old note somewhere, but, but yeah, if I, if I find, like, a difference on those numbers, I'll, I'll definitely report back, um, and they also came out with a, you know, a video bundle since, like covid and stuff, which let me
Speaker 3 49:12
it's not manly to care about covid. You should want to get an illness to die like a real man.
Unknown Speaker 49:19
Die living for your country.
Speaker 1 49:23
Um, Damn, I can't find it, but it was just like, oh, this includes, like, all the experiences that you would have in the like, the real world. And I'm like, what? But it's like, online, you're not like, going out and like learning,
Speaker 3 49:40
like, Come on, ladies, come in the Zoom call. We're gonna practice hitting on you. Oh, one
Speaker 1 49:45
of the things did include, like, Zoom calls for like, the virtual Oh, that's what it was called. They call it like a virtual
Unknown Speaker 49:53
camp or something. Let me see. I.
Speaker 3 50:00
Think I said this last time we talked about it, but we should wear wigs and pretend to be men and do this.
Speaker 1 50:06
Yes, we'll have our own, like, Man podcast.
Unknown Speaker 50:12
Oh, yeah. So there is, um,
Speaker 1 50:16
so it kind of it just goes, like, the master class, bundle covers and just, kind of like, you know, list off stuff and has pictures of mystery and and Baxter bubble, like each talking point. But thought it was funny, and I know this probably just, you know, me taking things out of context or overthinking. But this one, I thought they picked interesting verbiage, sound bites and gambits that are used to spike interaction throughout the or attraction through the interaction. Just, we're talking about dating anybody or picking up people. Just keep the word spiked just far away. She brings up volleyball. Just you don't say that was a great spike. You say Good point. She slammed that ball into the ground really hard. Let's just not bring that word anywhere around dating.
Speaker 3 51:20
Yeah, I'm gonna spike you into hydration and get you another drink. How about that lady?
Speaker 1 51:27
Spike you into attraction with this interaction.
Unknown Speaker 51:37
Can you multiply a fraction? I
Unknown Speaker 51:42
got vanilla ice from that.
Unknown Speaker 51:44
Oh yeah, okay, yeah, I think that fits the vibe.
Unknown Speaker 51:48
Yeah, for sure.
Unknown Speaker 51:50
Oh God, is my game picking up traction?
Speaker 1 51:58
Oh yeah, so, I mean, that's like, pretty much, I guess, like, all on the website. I didn't like, do, like, an insanely deep dive, just because everything right now, yeah, I got the general idea, yeah, they're worldwide. Here's their offerings
Unknown Speaker 52:15
worldwide, yeah. And
Speaker 1 52:18
I thought it was funny too, because I also pointed out a word they used in, oh, yeah, the invisible thing. I was like, don't like that.
Unknown Speaker 52:27
Maybe it's just a sensitive day. Well,
Speaker 3 52:34
thanks for listening to our rage episode, slash Valentine's.
Unknown Speaker 52:41
Yeah. Thanks for
Unknown Speaker 52:43
listening to our episode about love.
Speaker 3 52:45
Yeah, um, wow. I You know what, maybe these guys will find love and then they can stop being out here, being creepy, yeah,
Unknown Speaker 52:58
stop trying so hard.
Speaker 1 53:03
Yeah, at least they have each other. They are a cute friendship. Oh, I mean, I hope I'm not like speaking too early. Maybe there's crazy shit that will come out. I regret ever saying anything about that, but they're problematic. She does not mean it, yeah, but just it. Just just all their pictures on their website together, and they're just like, we're just trying to help other dudes, just couple dudes helping other dudes, despite our weird choice of verbiage sometimes, yeah and weird hats that we're gonna wear and making women feel creeped out,
Unknown Speaker 53:39
yeah, maybe I take back their cute friend.
Speaker 3 53:43
Well, I mean, I take it back already. I can see what you mean with the pictures. Like, when you showed me the website, they have, like, stylized pictures, and they're like, in a little like bubble above the text. It's kind of like
Unknown Speaker 53:56
boys being friends, yeah?
Speaker 1 53:57
It's almost like you're looking at someone's like, scrapbook, yeah.
Unknown Speaker 54:02
Like, if men had
Speaker 1 54:03
a scrapbook, this would probably be it. This is the time we
Unknown Speaker 54:07
bullied this girl into talking to us. It
Speaker 3 54:12
was so special, and you could learn it too. Yeah, we loved it. It was the best night. We'd love to teach you how to do this.
Speaker 1 54:19
Want to teach it to everyone else, so we feel more accepted about making creepy choices.
Speaker 3 54:26
Oh, the only thing that I do want to look more into that you mentioned is the fucking like, would you say paranormal or whatever?
Speaker 1 54:35
Paranormal pickup, yeah, game or whatever.
Speaker 3 54:38
Yeah, crazy. I'm just a spiritual guy. What can you say? Lee, so yeah,
Unknown Speaker 54:49
and yeah. I mean,
Speaker 1 54:52
I don't know if they'd ever crossed like, a line. So I mean, obviously we're just picking on them. From what I've seen, it doesn't seem like they would, like, hold. The woman down and, yeah, drug her like whatever. It seems like they would actually be respectful of that, but they're just kind of creepy and unaware of how to approach women, yeah, or maybe I'm a minority of
Unknown Speaker 55:16
women that don't like being purchased, like that damn in
Speaker 3 55:20
like, my friend sent me this tweet that somebody put out today. Well, he sent it to me today, but it was about this guy was saying, like, oh yeah. I mean, women are, they're just like us. I mean, they're just doing everyday stuff. And you know, they're just, they're just like guys, but they're women. It's like, yeah,
Unknown Speaker 55:50
how brave.
Speaker 3 55:52
Being so brave, you're realizing something that other people realize when they're like, five years old.
Speaker 1 56:02
Damn, yeah. So that's funny. Sometimes it does feel like they're kind of like that, a little bit like, there was that time I think, of like Jake Paul, or whatever brother it was, but he was like, I'm not trying to, like, sound woke or anything, but women have it hard.
Unknown Speaker 56:24
That dude
Speaker 1 56:27
go scam more people on Pokemon cards and crypto
Unknown Speaker 56:31
and shit like,
Speaker 1 56:34
wow, that is and I don't think we talked about him getting his shit rocked, and Andrew Tate getting his shit rocked. I tried to see if there was, like, anything to really follow up with
Unknown Speaker 56:47
Andrew Tate. Just kind of like, I
Unknown Speaker 56:51
think everyone
Speaker 1 56:52
kind of gave him an out with like, oh, he, you know, he lost the fight on purpose so he could win money. He was like, actually, no, I was, I can't remember what he called it, I'll just say, like, off, off game or whatever, just some kind of term I guess he had. He was like, Yeah, I was off game. And I actually went to a doctor to ask him why I might have been off in that fight. And it's something else people pointed out was like, um, I didn't notice this, but he does always do it. He's like, see and I can make excuses, but I don't. I could say that I'm bald, I could say that I'm over 40. I could say that I haven't done a real fight in five years, but I'm not saying any of that. Wow. So yeah, if there's anything more to like report besides like that, and
Speaker 3 57:44
yeah, Paul guy getting his job fucking broken, imagine, like, just being that type of man, where you're so entitled to the world going completely your way that you have an off day, and you go to a doctor and demand to know why you had an off day, unjust, and you're so used to everything just lining up.
Speaker 1 58:16
Oh, that just makes me think of, I think it was a Chelsea piretti joke, because she was like, man, yeah. Imagine just like being a guy like you just wake up in the morning, and it's just like people want
Unknown Speaker 58:27
to hear what I have to say.
Unknown Speaker 58:33
So true, so true.
Unknown Speaker 58:36
Thank you for wanting to hear what we have to say.
Speaker 1 58:38
Since you're listening, yeah, thank you for listening this far. Sorry if we sent you through the roof. If anything, I hope you just know that, uh,
Speaker 3 58:49
not everyone's a shithead. I guess we're even though we're saying that. Yeah, there are still some non shitheads out there, and hopefully we can
Unknown Speaker 59:01
rid the world of shit, yeah, yes,
Speaker 1 59:06
we're not gonna cover it up with flower spray. No, no, because you can still smell
Speaker 3 59:11
the shit. No, we don't want shit and flowers. We don't want shit and cinnamon. We don't want shit and pumpkin bread. We just want no shit. Yes, exactly. Yeah.
Speaker 1 59:26
Follow us on Instagram. You know, where you listen to podcasts, comment, you know, write us in some stories. We like you.
Unknown Speaker 59:35
It was nice to have a story, three stories, yeah,
Speaker 1 59:39
even if it's just totally random, like nothing we've ever talked about before, you're just, you're just like, whoa. There was this crazy thing that happened to me when I was little, or this crazy thing I learned about the other day that, like, might be a fun topic. Please let us know. Yes, and on that note,
Unknown Speaker 59:58
party on
Unknown Speaker 59:59
party on.
Speaker 1 1:00:16
I'm starting off with like, Did I ever tell you about this time? And I guess even if I did tell you just oh yeah, pretend like okay, do.