Have you been intrigued by some of those eye color changing surgeries you’ve been seeing on instagram??? Well, we are…so dive into it with us! Episode Notes (long thing): Have you been intrigued by some of those eye color changing surgeries you’ve been seeing on instagram??? Well, we are…so dive into it with us! The weird boob oil instagram post https://www.instagram.com/p/DMiPY26xnd9/ Instagram videos of eye color changing surgery: https://www.instagram.com/p/DHJJDM_pD8R/ https://www.instagram.com/p/DDUi7WCJMWl/ https://boxerwachler.com/color-eyes https://www.instagram.com/drboxerwachler/
Have you been intrigued by some of those eye color changing surgeries you’ve been seeing on instagram??? Well, we are…so dive into it with us!
Episode Notes (long thing):
Have you been intrigued by some of those eye color changing surgeries you’ve been seeing on instagram??? Well, we are…so dive into it with us!
https://boxerwachler.com/color-eyes
Instagram videos of eye color changing surgery:
https://www.instagram.com/p/DHJJDM_pD8R/
https://www.instagram.com/p/DDUi7WCJMWl/
https://www.instagram.com/drboxerwachler/
The weird boob oil instagram post https://www.instagram.com/p/DMiPY26xnd9/
Speaker 1 0:00
I was buying merch at a wrestling thing one time, and they usually just like, do stuff on the phone, and it kept not working. And every time it wasn't working, I just kind of screwed it down a little bit, and then it kept not working, and I just kept getting lower and lower and lower. And then eventually the person or the wrestler I was purchasing from started lowering down with me too. So that was cool,
like we're in this together.
Speaker 1 0:52
Thank you. Welcome to nervous laughter podcast.
Unknown Speaker 0:56
Welcome I'm Alyssa
I'm Jamie,
Speaker 1 1:01
and we're here to lower down together. Yeah, we're gonna lower it down unless you can't take eyeball stuff. Yes, take that as a trigger warning. If you can't take things happening to eyeballs, this might not be a good episode for you.
Speaker 2 1:20
I'm very excited, because I didn't think about the actual process of what you're going to talk about, and I'm fucking pumped that you're going to talk about it.
Speaker 1 1:29
Yeah, I'm excited. You're excited? Yes, um, yeah. So this episode is going to be kind of, yeah, like, more about process and things around it, as opposed to, like, just the videos. And the videos I'm talking about are ones that a lot of you guys have probably seen on Instagram. Probably tick tock. I actually hadn't seen them until you sent me one. Oh, really, yeah, yeah. I started, uh, I started seeing people like, make fun of the videos, like, make their own. So I was like, oh, everyone has seen this now, just when I see certain people start to make stuff about it, but, yeah, it's the videos where people are getting the eye color change surgery, and they'll take a video, like, right after, and they're like, Oh, I love this. Is this permanent? And just like some people really, really love it, their reactions are great. But, um, it's just kind of, like, I don't know, we'll go through through it today, and kind of, I'm not saying that, uh, you know, like it a lot of times it looks cool. Sometimes it looks insanely unnatural and just scary, like, um, and, yeah, we'll definitely post videos on the Instagram. Oh yeah. And if I find any good videos to listen to you, I'll insert them here. Your new honey gold eyes.
Unknown Speaker 2:52
And risks include light sensitivity and scratchiness.
Speaker 3 2:57
Wow, that's awesome. How you feeling seeing yourself for the first time, like this. They like it.
Unknown Speaker 3:06
You see people, what do you think they're gonna say now? Just
Speaker 4 3:09
small things change a lot. I love it. I love that. Pick the honey.
Speaker 5 3:16
Go. Yeah. What'd you feel when you saw yourself for the first time in the mirror.
Speaker 4 3:21
A lot of emotion. I was shocked, super happy. It's so different. It looks so good. Very glad that I did this. I'm not sure why I waited. Best thing I've ever done so far in my life. Can't get any better than this. Thank you so much.
Speaker 5 3:36
What made you comfortable finally deciding to come and do it, been
Speaker 4 3:39
searching stuff, researching it, just the people that you helped really have nothing but good to say. And that kind of drew me into that.
Speaker 5 3:50
What would you say to people that are on the fence or skeptical about this?
Speaker 4 3:54
There's gonna be a lot of questions. But when you're actually here and actually talk to Dr Brian, you'll feel so much comfortable doing it gentle, the staff, everything professional, so out of words to describe. I'm just really happy I did.
Speaker 5 4:10
It. Just got done. What did you think when you first saw your eyes in the mirror?
Speaker 6 4:15
I was shocked. I couldn't believe that that was myself. I felt like I was reborn. It's an experience that I don't have enough words. It's priceless. This changes my life. It's a whole new person, no, demeanor, no. It's a new opportunity in life. I love it.
Speaker 5 4:33
You had Riviera blue, and how long had you been thinking about changing your eye color?
Speaker 6 4:38
Since I was 16, I would wear contacts all my life. I was so lucky enough to meet Dr Brian, and as soon as I reached out to you guys, you guys were so fast at everything, and in less than a week, I was here. So that's how amazing this is. And life changing, life changing. I have no words, not enough words, and not enough thank
Speaker 5 4:58
yous What did you find? Mind that made you comfortable from a safety point of view. We researched
Speaker 6 5:03
a lot. 1000s of people have already done it, and they've had great reviews, great experiences about it. So honestly, it's just another surgery that got modernized, and it's great, especially Dr Brian has amazing reviews. I think he did the ACE family and a lot of other other people, other stories and stuff. So, yeah, definitely was like, what not? Why not? I mean, this is an amazing opportunity, so I couldn't lose out on it.
Speaker 1 5:33
So who does these surgeries and what is their Instagram? It's Dr Brian boxer watchler. His Instagram is a DR boxer watchler. A watchler spelled W, A, C, H, L, E, R, and he has a shit ton of videos of these, uh, eye color changing surgeries he does. I remember when I first started seeing those videos, I went to as a Instagram just to find more, and I found this one video that, like made me just feel bad about the whole and it's not eye related. It's just like, why would a doctor post something like this on Instagram? Oh, no. So there's nothing to listen to in the video. But basically, to explain, it's just a it's just, I don't know, what would you explain that? Like, just, like a scammy, like, ointment thing.
Speaker 2 6:43
And, yeah, I guess the girl that they show at the beginning is supposed to be flat chested, but I feel like it's just the angle, yeah, and then there's some drops, and then it shows, like a side view of a boob growing. And then the girl at the end has big boobs, yeah? And look like, I mean, look at the results, yeah, just look,
Speaker 1 7:09
because there's a captain that says, does it work? And then yeah, she's like, You tell me, boy,
Unknown Speaker 7:18
look at these boobs. Boy,
Speaker 1 7:22
so that just made me, like, not feel good about the whole situation. And then there's just more people getting their eye color changed. So yeah, he does. He does a lot of eye surgeries, like I was looking around the website a little bit. He seems to specialize in keratoconus, which is a condition where your cornea, the clear front part of your eye, becomes thinner and gradually bulges outward into a cone like shape.
Speaker 2 7:53
Oh, which sorry. I just Oh, my God. Sounds very painful. It sounds like the bra that Madonna wore in the 80s. I'm just, like, picturing that in people's eyes.
Unknown Speaker 8:06
That doesn't make sense. You got Madonna bra?
Speaker 1 8:13
Um, I mean, yeah, that's like, pretty much what it looks like. I don't think it comes to like, when I, uh, like,
Unknown Speaker 8:21
sorry, I'm like, touching the side of my bed.
Unknown Speaker 8:24
Notice I was just thinking about, I literally,
Speaker 2 8:26
like, didn't notice what you were doing
Unknown Speaker 8:34
with your hand.
Speaker 1 8:38
I think it's like, more like, you know, rounded at the point, yeah, but like so, but yeah, because the cornea plays a central role in focusing light onto your retina, even small changes to its shape can significantly affect how you see. So instead of, you know, sharp, clear stuff, you may notice increasing distortion, blurriness or difficulty seeing at night, everyday tasks such as reading, driving or working on the computer may become harder as condition progresses. So, yeah, he seems to specialize, like in treating this condition, you know, surgeries and things like that.
Speaker 2 9:20
Oh, I wonder if he's putting, like, dead people corneas and eyeballs.
Speaker 1 9:25
Oh, slice it off. Well, I don't know how it works. Oh, or, I guess I just when I saw it, I guess I just assumed they just, like, slice off the cornea that's sticking up. But I don't know if they need
Speaker 2 9:38
to, like, replace it with when I worked at the funeral home, they would like, they would come to the funeral home and like, collect corneas from people, you know that would get put into living people.
Unknown Speaker 9:49
Cornucopia of corn,
Unknown Speaker 9:53
of corneas.
Speaker 2 9:56
I like the visual of that. I don't know what a. Cornea looks like. But I'm just picturing, you know, cornucopia of eyeballs in the
Speaker 1 10:07
pictures I saw of it, like, right? Like, you know, like, coned up, it was all just like, kind of like clear. So I guess it's like the clear part above the like, at least the black part of your eyeball, okay, yeah, at least that part. It could be, I don't know if it I'm not look
Unknown Speaker 10:27
you were an eye doctor,
Unknown Speaker 10:29
no, but this guy is,
Speaker 1 10:32
um, so, I mean, it seems like you know he's done credible things, credible, not incredible. Maybe both, yeah, maybe the judge it looked like he had decent Google reviews. I also don't know if he has a sign in his office that says like, yeah, five star review and get 10% off or something. Get a 20%
Speaker 2 10:54
weirder, brighter color, yeah, but
Speaker 1 10:58
at least on his website, it says, like he's the surgeon for the surgeons, like the guy that you want to have work on your eyes, and like to the celebrities and the stars and
Unknown Speaker 11:12
books for
Speaker 1 11:15
educating people and up and becoming eye surgeons. I guess, hi celeb. Yeah, he's kind of a big deal. Um, so he created color eyes trademark kerato pigmentation surgery, and he this is at the boxer watchler Vision Institute in Beverly Hills, so we're going to head on over to the website. So, yeah, the landing page of his website is just kind of all about the eye color changing stuff. So, you know, I assume he's pushing that quite heavily at the boxer watchler Vision Institute in Beverly Hills, we offer Colorize, a revolutionary treatment designed to give you the eye color change of your dreams instantly, unlike colored contact lenses that may feel uncomfortable or cause irritation, Colorize is a permanent, minimally invasive keratopigmentation procedure that uses advanced laser technology, surgical skill and artistry to alter your eye color without any invasive surgery. I don't
Speaker 2 12:25
know it's your fucking eyeball. It seems pretty invasive.
Speaker 1 12:31
It's just, like, I don't know, I'm so scared. Like, what happens if you just happen to, like, sneeze, like, during it, and just because, I assume, during or, yeah, I think during this one, they have the thing that holds your eyeball open, oh yeah, orange, yeah. And, like, I don't know it's just, it's just scary stuff. Have you heard about,
Speaker 2 12:57
like, sometimes when people get LASIK, they'll have really, really bad side effects, like really bad, permanent dry eye or or things that just can't be repaired. There's a correlation between LASIK and people committing suicide. What it's happened to a couple, like, maybe not famous people, but I know there was a pretty popular news anchor that that happened to, oh shit. And I used to want G to get it, because I feel like I'm calling you out if you're listening.
Unknown Speaker 13:38
But sometimes I'm like,
Speaker 2 13:42
maybe change your contacts a little more often. I feel like contact wearers sometimes get lazy, and I'm like, that's your fucking eyeball. So I used to be like, oh, you should get LASIK. But then I found out about that, and I was like, Don't do it.
Unknown Speaker 13:56
Yeah. It just seems I don't know.
Speaker 2 13:59
It just seems like scarier, because it can, like, potentially have, yeah, worse, yeah, no wonder it went in with kind of the same with this. I mean, I know they're just fucking with your
Speaker 1 14:14
is it Iris, the colored part? Yeah, I think so. But still, but they said that they dye the the
Unknown Speaker 14:25
your the eyeball sack.
Speaker 1 14:26
Yeah, the eyeball sack, technical term your cornea, the surface just the procedure does not go inside the eye. It remains just beneath the surface of the cornea, which is why it's considered safe overall. So I don't know if that's like if the iris is part of the cornea, or if it's injected just above the color, so it's just color on top of it, but yeah, we'll kind of get into some of the potential side effects later. I mean, there hasn't been stuff that's come out where people are. Like, you know, complaining about it yet. But some of the bad reviews he had were just like they had, people had worse vision than before, just regarding different types of surgeries there. But it was like a 4.8 rating. So it seemed like, I don't know how much it was. Is like an acceptable percentage of error for, like, a surgeon, or, you know, most people were just gonna be worse no matter what. Yeah, I don't really know all the
Speaker 2 15:30
detail, or maybe it's like a temporary side effect, but the person's a dumb ass, and they didn't, they didn't listen to that part. It was just like,
Speaker 1 15:39
five hours after and, yeah, I couldn't say I'm blind now.
Speaker 1 15:53
So how does it work? Colorize is a quick 15 minute per eye procedure, typically painless, that instantly changes the color of your eyes. Patients sit up for most of the procedure, look in the mirror and often cry with tears of happiness and delay.
Speaker 1 16:14
Modern keratopigmentation consists of three steps, which takes about 15 to 30 minutes pry. Step one, the surgeon uses a FEMA to second, late Yeah, a FEMA to second laser to make a circular channel in the cornea. Just under the cornea surface, the surgeon can adjust the inner circular diameter, which determines the size of the new pupil, which that sounds so scary to me, something that determines the size of the new pupil, so I the outer diameter. Oh, sorry. Oh, sorry. I just said, don't like it. Yeah, I don't like I know that just shining a light on it, but that sounds like they're like, permanently changing, like your pupil size, but oh, I assume, I don't quite know, maybe that's the
Unknown Speaker 17:08
Yeah. So yeah, the
Speaker 1 17:12
surgeon can adjust the inner circle diameter, which determines the size of the new pupil. The outer diameter, diameter of the channel is adjustable, and usually the maximum is set by the surgeon. The laser makes perfect makes a perfectly circular channel. But that's a problem. I know you're thinking, why is a perfect circle not good? The reason is the cornea is not a circle. It's an oval shape. So that's the reason for the second step, which leads us to step two. The surgeon uses an instrument to widen the outer edge of the channel to match the outer cornea diameter,
Speaker 1 17:53
which, this is the part that I kind of like, don't like, but I guess I get it, if there's not like an instrument that can do this. Oh, no, this is literally where surgeon and artist intersect. And it's like, it's my fucking eyeball. Let's not, like, leave it up to an artist interpretation. You know, like,
Speaker 2 18:13
Ah, I feel like this could be a good sketch a doctor with artistic visions,
Speaker 1 18:22
yeah, with like, how to treat a broken leg or, yeah, we'll make it go this way. Um, it's a very delicate part of the procedure, and is highly dependent on three factors, the instruments being used, surgical skill and surgeon artistry, we want to extend the channel to just before the edge of the cornea for all 360 degrees of it to give a small dark rim that occurs naturally in the eyes. It's called the limbal ring. Creating a thin Limbo ring helps make a new eye color appear more natural. There is a subjective component to extending the channel and making the limbo ring and also making it match between your two eyes. Is the reason there's an artist aspect.
Unknown Speaker 19:13
I'll kind of just like it to be measured out, and then it just kind of
Unknown Speaker 19:19
something more like that. Stressful, yeah, it's um,
Speaker 1 19:28
yeah, my eyes keep kind of like itching throughout this too. So a little more about the surgeon artistry. The surgeon needs to see how it looks and then decide to do more extensive extension in one area versus another area. So it's even much like Michael Angelo deciding to sculpt a more here and there to get a masterpiece just right. It kind of feels more to me. Like, when you pluck, like your eyebrows or something, and you're like, well, just do a little more over here, like, fucked up. You're like, well, let me just even, well fuck and then you're just gonna wind up with, like,
Unknown Speaker 20:10
huge ass fucking eye wall.
Speaker 1 20:17
This takes most of the time, and as it's pain, stinkingly meticulous work done under the microscope. I designed special custom instruments for myself to help me be as accurate as possible. We distinguished our signature color eyes care pigmentation from other forms of care pigmentation, because of our custom method to extend the channel to create the ideal limbal ring using our custom instruments. Therefore, there's two types of customization. Colorize compared to the regular hair pigmentation, like the difference between like the difference in caliber between a Rolls voice in a Volkswagen. Both are cars, but quality is vastly different. This guy, I would like to give him a little slap. Yeah, man, and you should see like in some of the fucking responses he had to, like, the negative reviews on Google. It was just like, it sassy. It's like, he says, like, some he Yeah, he's like, Well, number one, this person says, blah blah blah blah blah, actually, blah blah blah. And then, like, number two, I have a degree in the field, or whatever, been working for this long, and I write books that teach other people, like, just like, Yeah, I'm just like, Damn dude.
Speaker 2 21:45
One important question, does he have this shit done to his eyeballs? Do you know, um, does it look like it?
Speaker 1 21:53
Looking at the picture of him, it doesn't look like it. But let me double check, because I remember I saw a picture of another guy he worked with. I was like, That guy definitely fucking so, I mean, it looks like he maybe could have it, but it's just, it's kind of like a steel gray blue could be natural, but like this guy
Unknown Speaker 22:21
smiling like that, either. It's very scary. Fucking
Speaker 2 22:23
Munch. Yeah, so will you send me that one? Yes, he will. Instagram needs that.
Speaker 1 22:32
Yeah. He will help you with your travel plans as you because there's a Q A in it later. But it's like, Why fly out to Beverly Hills, to have your eyes done and stuff like that. So I may need to get my eyes done after this, because I feel like I'm rolling them a lot. I could injure them. You're gonna get those form little Madonna brawl. Oh, we'll move on now to step three, where the surgeon places the chosen cornea ink in the channel through two small openings. It's gross. My eyes just like, keep twitching like here and there a different special instrument is dipped in the ink and then slid inside the openings. This gives the most gross I feel like, I mean, I know there's not going to be noise doing this, but I feel like it'd be like a jelly kind of noise, yeah. This gives the most control of the ink application. Once the ink has been placed in the channel that's considered quote, One Pass, unquote, a second pass is applying another round of ink inside the channel, the color intensity increases with each subsequent pass. The intensity doesn't change the color itself, but increases the brightness. Think of a dimmer switch for a light. Turning it up makes it makes the light brighter, but it's the same color of light. In case you didn't know how bright, like you know,
Speaker 2 24:16
thanks, eyeball doctor. I've never used a fucking lamp or anything before.
Speaker 1 24:24
Thanks for Doctor splaining it. Man is Doctor explaining. This is where a lot of experience with colors and the procedure is important, since some colors require less ink for the desired effect, while other colors require more passes. Again, surgeon and artist combined.
Speaker 2 24:47
I imagine him wearing some goofy artist smock and like a beret instead of surgical. He's like, let's start. Yeah. He's mixing the. The colors on one of those boards, that's like a,
Speaker 1 25:04
you know what I mean? Like, those, like, I don't know what they're called, but they're kind of like the shape, like a boomerang. I feel like it's like a palette, yeah? I imagine I'm doing it like, like a hairstylist, just like in the bowl.
Unknown Speaker 25:24
To really aggressive, yeah, sure.
Speaker 1 25:31
Safety care of care. Pigmentation, color eyes is an elevated form of care, pigmentation, which has a robust track record of over 15 years of being overall safe and effective overall. Yeah, of course, any procedure has some element of risk. Hair, pigmentation has minimal risk and is highly effective. The procedure does not go inside of the eye. It remains beneath, just beneath the surface of the cornea, which is why it's considered so overall safe, um, I mean, I did, um, I don't have any of the journals linked like right now, so I might like look them up a little bit after this, if we have time on the Episode.
Unknown Speaker 26:16
But, yeah, this is not FDA approved.
Speaker 1 26:22
And, there were some studies from some universities that, like, you know, kind of suggested against it, because, you know, die in your fucking eyeball. Yeah, there's things that could happen, like, you know, like just your vision kind of gets worse or blurrier, or potentially, like even maybe lose your sight. So sorry if you're going to answer this question later. But is this something permanent, or is it like a tattoo where it might fade you could need a touch up so it's something that will need touch ups. And I I'll mention more specifically, like the expected time frame later. Oh, okay. But I will say, by watching all the videos on Instagram and stuff, you just like, do not really get that from it, it just kind of seems like it's like, like, it's a one time done permanent thing. I don't know if that's just me assuming, but I'm sure that's how they made it look like you said, really sell it. They're not like all right now, remember to follow up at home, and then in like, you know, five years or whatever it is, come back.
Unknown Speaker 27:33
So, yeah, they're really just trying to sell you on it.
Speaker 1 27:39
Back to their website, it says in studies published in medical journals, there are no reports of infections nor loss of vision with modern keratopigment, keratopigmentation and people with healthy eyes who are properly evaluated, light sensitivity can occur, but it's usually temporary. And he said, The website says, based on published results, colored contact lenses have 100% and 60% higher risk of cornea ulcers and infections which can cause loss of vision compared to care pigment to pigmentation which has zero reported cornea ulcer infections and peer reviewed published studies,
Unknown Speaker 28:26
which, I mean, it's kind of like that.
Speaker 1 28:29
I think that only, like, really happens if you buy, like, unregulated contacts, or, you know, just, like, never change them, and just things you shouldn't do kind of stuff. Yeah. And
Speaker 2 28:44
I feel like that could also be a thing where it's like, well, this condition has never resulted from getting your eyes colored, but it's like, maybe that condition couldn't occur from that, but you'll have these other conditions occur, like, I don't know if that makes
Speaker 1 29:03
sense, yeah, yeah, you might get something else, yeah, yeah, something which is because they're like, because he specifies, like, it like, nothing was reported in healthy patient. I'm like, what happened all the unhealthy patients? And was there any other non cornea related effects? Yeah, because this was only specified as cornea really, like, the fucking ink leaking out into the rest of your eyeball, that's what I've Yeah. Like, yeah. What if he Yeah? What if he fucks up and, like, your fucking eyes blue, yeah, what if he fucking sneezes? I don't know. It's just,
Unknown Speaker 29:44
it's just too many, too many scary things.
Speaker 1 29:55
So the website also just talks about, like, other options for eye surgeries. But like, of course, like, why they're. Is better. And it talks about okay, candidate evaluation for color eyes, which I understand, like, why they put this for the candidate. But it's also kind of scary, because it's like, ideal candidates are, you know, over the age of 18, with, like, real, like, overall, healthy, no eye issues, and it's like, no, you're gonna destroy someone's perfectly healthy eye. Yeah?
Speaker 2 30:29
Some 18 year old girl, that's like, my modeling agent said that I was like, better if my eyes were blamed, dude.
Speaker 1 30:37
Yeah, there's probably shit like that. That's gonna happen. It's gonna be sad. I Yeah, I'm just, I'm wondering what's gonna happen, you know, in the next however many years, and people are like, fuck the shit,
Unknown Speaker 30:49
we'll be here to report on it. Yes,
Speaker 1 30:55
okay, this, this, this kind of talks about the question that you had earlier, longevity and maintenance of colors. The results of color eyes are designed to be permanent, with no need for repeated treatments. However, some patients might experience slight fading or changes in the intensity of the color over time, which can be addressed with follow up the visits. Maintenance procedures are rarely needed, but can be performed for those who desire adjustments or enhancement years later, patients should be aware of the long term commitment they are making with such a permanent alteration to their appearance.
Speaker 2 31:39
Yeah, I feel like you called it, where they're trying to make it look like it's one and done, but when they say visits with an S, it's like, yeah.
Speaker 1 31:50
Like, yeah. It might be a quick thing, but I have to go back, like, yeah, get my eyes touched up every five years, or else it looks like fucking like nuclear waste, or like, I don't know what the fuck
Speaker 2 32:01
it felt like it already looks like the head. It's just so creepy.
Speaker 1 32:06
Oh yeah, they, uh, yeah. A lot of them look very unnatural, like they're like, gonna be in preparing to work at a haunted house with like, a mask on. You know, the
Speaker 2 32:19
only people that I feel like would really look good with these are just weird, hot, goth people. I feel like this would be perfect for that. Just having a really creepy looking eye, yeah, feel like it would really go with that, yeah, but one eye or two actually, either, okay, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. I did say I singular, but yeah. But I was like, hey, you know, I mean, either one would be fucking cool, but yeah, just a normal looking person, it looks really jarring in a bad way, yeah, yeah, and yeah. It is very jarring. Like, I remember one of the videos, the guy was like, like, yeah, you know, it was kind of like shocking at first, but you know, you kind of, you know, you get used to it or whatever, and it's just like, oh.
Speaker 1 33:12
So what is the recovery and aftercare process like? Well, it typically involves minimal discomfort and a quick return to daily activities, you may experience mild irritation and sensitivity to light initially. Follow recovery guidelines, which advise avoiding strenuous activities and direct sunlight exposure for the first few days post procedure, which is kind of funny, because it says you can return to normal Well, I guess normal activities you can it's just stuff around the house, but it's like, you can't you have to avoid direct sunlight and avoid strenuous activities for a few days. So it's like, you can't drive, you can't like
Unknown Speaker 33:54
you go to work. I guess
Speaker 1 33:57
full stabilization of the eye color can take several weeks, during which time you should follow up all prescribed treatments and attend follow up visits to ensure proper healing. Oh, and what are the psychological benefits? And that's this, like this trick with, oh my god, brightest, scariest blue eyes you've ever seen.
Unknown Speaker 34:18
Why are they all so creepy, yeah,
Speaker 1 34:23
but yeah, it just talks about, you know, boost, boost your self esteem, and then, um, you know, they'll help you choose the right eye color. Some of the FAQ, let me scroll through and find some of the good ones. Okay, um, how long do the results from color eyes last? They're designed to be permanent. The specialized pigment used is biocompatible and long lasting, embedded in the corneal stroma, unlike contact lenses or temporary dyes, this procedure. Typically offers a one time solution for life, long, long, esthetic transformation. But as you know, we mentioned earlier, it's still potential that that it'll be misleading. Yeah, I am assuming people would need follow ups for this. Um, okay, so here's, here's the FAQ that I was wanting to read. Why fly to Beverly Hills, to have your eye color changed? Trust. Oh, all caps. Trust, people. Trust in all caps. Dr Brian and his staff, if you think about it, it's really all about trust. If you don't have trust, then what else is left? We have much gratitude that leads people here, from all over the world, since 1999 for cornea, cornea procedures. We don't take that privilege for granted, because people's futures are in our hands, literally. That is the reason we are so detailed about every step of the way we understand coming here is a big step for you, and we know you might get a question from friends and family, but might get this question from friends and family. So when friends and family ask, why are you flying to Beverly Hills? Yeah, trust. I trust, you know, and I guess they just didn't really update their website correctly, because the next question is, why would you fly to Beverly Hills for eye color change, trust. So this one doesn't talk about trust, so I don't know which one's supposed to be the new one. Oh, but this one says, Sure, you might find someone near you who can change the color of your eye because of reduced insurance reimbursements, many eye surgeons will be jumping at the chance to do it. This is the reason that 1000s of good people like you hop on a plane or drive here for the easy three day trip because they want to be treated by Dr Brian, a world renowned cornea surgeon who is an expert in eye color change procedures and invented his own instruments for it. I guess I like that. That one answer better than the previous one. It's just like, yeah. It's an actual answer, yeah. It has, like, he has special instruments and blah, blah, blah.
Speaker 2 37:28
Like, if you told me you were gonna do some questionable shit, and I asked you why, and you just said, Trust. I'd be like,
Unknown Speaker 37:38
can we go over why I should trust,
Speaker 1 37:45
yeah, and then the breast just kind of talks about him and his, you know, experience, and has his resume on there. And then he also did, like a TEDx. I didn't, Oh, listen to it, or anything. But I know TEDx is different from the TED talks, because I there's still, like, a version of TED talks, but I think it's more open to, like, fucking anybody. Yeah, not saying he's not credible. I don't, I don't know. I haven't read his books. I haven't, I haven't called the fucking Institute to see in the college you worked at. I'm sorry I didn't deep dive
Speaker 2 38:25
what you didn't go undercover and go to Beverly
Speaker 1 38:28
Hills to get a consult. I know it just wasn't in the budget. You're right. Yeah, when Alyssa sat down, I was like, I didn't do a deep dive. I didn't like, call the place
Speaker 2 38:41
if you would like to fund a trip for Jamie to go to Beverly Hills, let us know.
Speaker 1 38:48
Yeah, yeah, we can arrange that. I'll totally go, um, chat with this guy. Sit down, you know, ask him, what's the deal with posting that weird tit oil scam stuff.
Speaker 2 39:01
You sit down in the chair, that's the first thing you say. So what's going on with the weird tit oil? Tell me about the tit oil. Can I get that in addition to the eyes? Is there an eyes tit oil combination package? Yeah.
Speaker 1 39:20
Does everyone get to leave with that as a, you know, goodie bag, goodie bag, yeah, and if you use my code, eye color change at checkout. Okay, so, as I mentioned earlier, the stuff is not FDA, FDA approved, and just to go over some of the,
Unknown Speaker 39:46
you know, potential complications,
Speaker 1 39:49
and well, this is for cosmetic Iris implant surgery. So I this is a technically, this is a different surgery, because they say, differs. From the other ones, because it does, like slits and stuff, but close enough, yeah, and this is from the American Academy of Ophthalmology. Potential complications of cosmetic Iris implant surgery include reduced vision or blindness. Oh, light sensitivity, elevated pressure inside the eye, that can lead to glaucoma, a potentially blinding disease, ew, a clouding of the eyes, naturally clear lenses, injury to the cornea, which is, you know, where they inject the fucking color pigment, stuff, no, if severe enough, a corneal transplant may be needed, inflammation of the iris or areas around it, leading to pain, blur, division
Speaker 2 40:50
and tearing, ew. Tearing is so gross to think about in Yeah, the eye region,
Speaker 1 41:03
yeah, eyeball tear, just like, ah, juices and
Unknown Speaker 41:09
just, I don't know, but
Unknown Speaker 41:12
sounds very painful. As far as character pigmentation,
Speaker 1 41:19
which is eye tattooing performed on the cornea itself. So it's a little different from what they do, because they insert it just under the cornea, as opposed to just tattooing it on top. But possible risks include damage to the cornea that can lead to cloudiness, warpage, fluid leakage, and vision loss, light sensitivity, reaction to the dye, which can cause inflammation, u Venus or blood vessel growth into the cornea, I didn't even think about like an allergic reaction to the die, gross bacterial or fungal infection, which can produce corneal scarring, vision loss, which I know, I guess I passed it up on the website, but I think it said, like, you know, you have like eye drops to follow up with, oh, uneven distribution of the dye, which would fucking suck. Oh man, that would leakage of the dye into the eye color fading due to the dye moving or leaking to the eye.
Speaker 1 42:31
And I can't find like the specific like side effects outside the ones like that. I kind of write off throughout the website. That was just, you know, like you might have, y'all have light sensitivity after and stuff. But, um, unless I just don't look in the right spot or went over it, yeah, I just
Speaker 2 42:49
didn't, maybe your eyes are experiencing clouding light sensitivity just from reading about
Speaker 1 42:58
that's how they get you. Yeah, better come on in fly to fly to Beverly, who have the guy that looks like a mug shot arranger traveling that was
Unknown Speaker 43:11
a jump scare, it is.
Speaker 1 43:18
But yeah, I assume that I mean, those, the two different ones that I side effects list that I read off were pretty similar, so I assume, yeah, it'll be pretty similar, potential risks with with this.
Unknown Speaker 43:33
So, yeah, fun stuff.
Speaker 1 43:36
Um, how did you like the, you know,
Speaker 2 43:42
you know, needles and eyes and eyes. It was very interesting. Um, you know, you've sent me a couple of those, and then I've had some stuff pop up now, but I don't know why. I never thought of the actual process. So I'm glad that you had that. It was really interesting.
Speaker 1 44:04
Have you seen videos where you think people just really don't like it? Yeah, and I need to, like, go through the Instagram again and see if I can find them, or, I don't know if he might have, like, taken those ones off, disabled the comments, at least. Yeah, I remember this one because I think I watched someone on like a YouTube channel, like, brought it up or whatever, and it was, like, the same one. And it's like, this guy that's just looking in the mirror, and he's like, is this permanent? Oh no. I was like, Whoa, buddy. Yikes. It's permanent. And it might fade a little bit. So you'll have to follow up with the, you know, I assume it's like, you know, tattoo permanent, you know, yeah, it'll be there, but you'll want to get touch ups.
Speaker 2 44:51
Maybe you won't want to, because if you don't like it, maybe it would just gradually go kind of. Yeah, to a better kind of color.
Unknown Speaker 45:02
Yeah, I was thinking like,
Speaker 1 45:05
if it start winds up looking like very splotchy or something, though, like over, like, some little stripes or something, yeah, then that would like be really freaky
Unknown Speaker 45:14
and crazy. That would be, I'm
Speaker 2 45:18
gonna go home and watch all these videos tonight.
Speaker 1 45:22
Yeah, I'll link you the the page, the to the Instagram. And, yeah, I'll link the website in the his Instagram, in the in the link below. Yeah, you know, I guess you're probably not watching it play so on your phone and open some tabs. And, you know, do whatever to get to it. Yeah,
Speaker 2 45:47
thank you. That was That was weird,
Unknown Speaker 45:52
like I had another question I was going to ask you.
Speaker 2 45:57
Oh, do you have any idea of cost, I assume that they keep that hidden until you
Unknown Speaker 46:04
call but
Speaker 1 46:07
it wasn't on the website. But let me see if I can do like a quick google and maybe someone had, like a
Unknown Speaker 46:14
has, like a review or something listed somewhere.
Speaker 2 46:17
Because years ago, I was thinking about getting permanent eyeliner, like nothing crazy. I just wanted something pretty thin, like on the top. And I remember calling around to a couple places, and they wouldn't tell me the price unless I came in. I'm like, Well, if it's like, $1,000 I don't want to do it. Yeah, and I don't know how much it actually is, but now I'm really glad I didn't get it, because I feel like I see people that have and sometimes it fades to like an ugly blue color or something, oh yeah.
Speaker 1 46:52
They're like, why don't you come in so we can they'll pressure you. Exactly, no, yeah, just from a quick Google search for the pricing, it says a character, kerato pigmentation procedure to change eye color is typically around 12,000 to 15,000 in the USA. Okay, it varies by clinic. I kind of thought it would be more. So this is, I assume that for his specific one, it probably is more because it's His own, His own procedure with his like, developed with the tools he developed for it specially. And it's in Beverly Hills, so I assume it's on the higher end, if not, you know, more expensive. I wonder
Unknown Speaker 47:38
if you can get a payment plan. Oh,
Speaker 1 47:43
we're probably gonna start seeing ads for it on like you want the eye color of your dreams.
Unknown Speaker 47:50
Why? Now you have healthy eyes,
Unknown Speaker 47:56
but you want them to be blue.
Speaker 2 48:00
Have you seen any? I feel like the ones I've seen are kind of mostly gray. Have you seen like, any creepy greens or blues?
Unknown Speaker 48:10
Yeah, there's some, like, really bright
Unknown Speaker 48:13
greens and very bright blues.
Unknown Speaker 48:15
That lady you showed me, hers were blue.
Speaker 1 48:18
Was that the one with, like, the scary looking lady that was on the website. She had like, black hair and, like, bright red lipstick. No, I think she had blonde hair and, okay, looked like she had all kinds of plastic surgery done. And I can't quite remember the video, but she was like, I'm a doctor, and I love this. And I was just like, I'm just gonna keep going. She's probably, if I had to guess, a plastic surgery related kind of doctor, and that's why she loves things like this. So yeah, but I hope you enjoyed fat heads. Hope your eyes are feeling okay after this.
Unknown Speaker 49:01
Yeah. Like washing my eyeballs,
Speaker 2 49:06
I know kind of feel like mine have sand in them for some reason,
Speaker 1 49:10
yeah, but I'm so scared to touch them because I don't want fucking Madonna. I
Speaker 1 49:23
is and follow us on Instagram, where you should also maybe follow the Eyeball guy.
Speaker 2 49:28
Oh, I definitely need to follow him. I feel like that'll be fun as I'm just scrolling along. And then you get that fucking jump scare.
Speaker 1 49:36
And it's like, okay, I guess they say they like it, I guess. Continue on with your day. Um, and yeah. So follow us, like, comment, subscribe on things, yes. And most important of all, party on. Party on and. And.